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TOO MUCH ANTI-E's

this is not my opinion however, this is fact. i lived it. high test does not bloat me.

then you are lucky to have low aromatase levels and/or high DHT (with low 3beta hsd conversion).

if someone is pretty lean and has little or no estrogen fat deposition pattern, then they are less likely to see significant bloating. diet and electrolyte intake, as well as water intake will also affect bloating.

high K to NA ratio with actually adequate water intake, good insulin sensitivity (cardio and/or genetics=== or supps/drugs to clear glucose) will reduce bloat even in those with higher estrogen levels. if you are modest/low aromatase producer, then such could probably keep you pretty much non bloated.


though as you get older and fatter, for sure the first and usualy at least somewhat on the second. you will bloat more from test and your need for AI will increase. though the original purpose of the qualification of your statement was to indicate that maybe normally you dont, maybe right now you dont, maybe at that dose you dont... but that does not mean that factors may not come into play and change that all around. And even if you dont bloat, the other impacts of high E (assuming moderate to high E without bloating) can be a whole lot more problematic long term than "bloat".


its important to delineate your experience from your opinion. just because you respond that way does not mean that most people will. eg. can take 8-10mg of pramipexole in a day, without any issues-- other than a bit of excessive hedonic drive-- manageable if one is aware.... that does not mean that everyone can. some people grow massive off 200mg of test a week, others need significantly more.
 
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Pretty sure Swale came up with that HCG Protcol whomk is a endocrinologist . Not sure this is the same Marco from Meso u are talking about:confused:

Thats Marianco who is a Psychiatrist and practices Behavioral Neuroendocrinology.

The Definitive Mind

He has some intresting theories.

Not sure if link is inapropiate to post, but some good articals.

Ah yes that's right - I had a feeling I might be wrong but figured I'd throw it out there.
 

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