I've come to realise that no matter how much "slag iron" I push in the most precise and deliberate manner, no how much I time my intra-workout shake, no matter how carefully I rinse my beef and carefully chew it down with my post workout slice of Ezekiel bread washed down with aminos that it generally amounts to fuck all unless my hormones are in place especially once you are over 35. And no trt doses doesn't do it no matter what the liars and bullshitters claim. To be fit and healthy is one thing, to maintain a standard or appearance of muscularity is another