Tren A-test E Cycle Advice

[Bruce_Campbell]

If i was about to hit my 3rd cycle. This is something i've seen where the individual got stellar results although it's a little unorthodox.

My stats:
26 years old
6' 0"
235 pounds
11% bodyfat
4.5 years lifting

I would run a cycle with more tren than test. In theory it would go something like this:

250 mg test e
350-400 mg test ace (never tried ace)
25-50 mg dbol (4 weeks to Kick start with)
Possibly finish up with winstrol around 100 mg eod or 50 ed
Running 12.5 mg aromasin a day
Letro on hand
entire cycle 12-14 weeks (8 weeks of tren)

What are the thoughts on this? I thought about 500mg of test e a week but someone i've heard about did it with a minute amount of test (less than 250) and had no sexual dysfunction and generally felt stellar the entire time. This person said the tren only affects bro's because of the preconceived notion of (well everything you read on the net) and that it leads to placebo douchebaggery (my take on what he said).

Thanks for the input, NATCH.

~~Your hero from Army of Darkness with the Boomstick~~

 

[RESTLESS1]

do you test ace or tren ace?......you listed test twice....

 

[Bruce_Campbell]

good eye. test e. tren a.

 

[RESTLESS1]

this is just my opinion......that is alot of compounds for a third cycle.....i personally would not reccommend tren for a third cycle....i have alot of respect for tren...very potent.....i believe you can make gains off test w/o jumping in the ring with tren so early....

 

[Bruce_Campbell]

You would be correct except that i ran tren hex in my last cycle (and loved every minute). I had no issues with it. I would expect this cycle to be no different . The thing i find weird is the concept of more tren than test. I would call bs but it's a really good friend of mine and he doesnt blow smoke. He looked SICK. I've looked it up and there seems to be mixed reviews.

this is just my opinion......that is alot of compounds for a third cycle.....i personally would not reccommend tren for a third cycle....i have alot of respect for tren...very potent.....i believe you can make gains off test w/o jumping in the ring with tren so early....

 

[muscle_n_blood]

How will you split up your tren A? How much ED or EOD?

 

[FIRE0808]

If its your first time running Tren, EOD will be good enough.

 

[Bruce_Campbell]

50 mg ed. I got no problems with every day inj. I'd rather keep blood plasma levels stable.

 

[LBJK88981]

I'm about to hit my 3rd cycle. I've decided to try something a buddy of mine has had stellar results with although it's a little unorthodox.

My stats:
26 years old
6' 0"
235 pounds
11% bodyfat
4.5 years lifting

I'm looking at running something with more tren than test. It would go something like this:

250 mg test e
350-400 mg test ace (never tried ace)
25-50 mg dbol (4 weeks to Kick start with)
Possibly finish up with winstrol around 100 mg eod or 50 ed
Running 12.5 mg aromasin a day
Letro on hand
entire cycle 12-14 weeks (8 weeks of tren)

What are the thoughts on this? I thought about running 500mg of test e a week but my buddy did it with a minute amount of test (less than 250) and had no sexual dysfunction and generally felt stellar the entire time. He said the tren only affects bro's because of the preconceived notion of (well everything you read on the net) and that it leads to placebo douchebaggery (my take on what he said).

Thanks for the input, NATCH.

~~Your hero from Army of Darkness with the Boomstick~~

I would suggest HIGHLY that your trenbolone dose never exceed your testosterone dose.. especially if also taking winstrol (two progestins). This could cause issues with neurotransmitter function (mood, libido etc). No need for letro and aromasin. Stick with the aromasin as your testosterone dose not going to yeild too much estrogen conversion.

Alex

 

[Bruce_Campbell]

Winstrol is DHT based. Tren and deca are progesterones. How is winny a progestin? I've heard many bros talk about the benefits of winny while running deca.

I would suggest HIGHLY that your trenbolone dose never exceed your testosterone dose.. especially if also taking winstrol (two progestins). This could cause issues with neurotransmitter function (mood, libido etc). No need for letro and aromasin. Stick with the aromasin as your testosterone dose not going to yeild too much estrogen conversion.

Alex

 

[qwerty_uk]

how about drop the dbol, run the winny lower dose and longer, and lower the tren slightly.

 

[Bruce_Campbell]

No kickstart from the Dbol? Run winny at what? Like 25mg? Did you get a lot of benefit from running winny for longer periods at lower doses?

 

[muscle_n_blood]

With tren A, you won't really need a kickstart. You won't need any winstrol either, unless you are planning to finish this run doing a show or at least being close to contest condition.

 

[Michaelthomasj]

It seems like every time someone makes a suggestion you go against what people are saying. So I wont tell you what i think, but I do agree w fitness by alex as far as running your test higher.

 

[mexbeast]

No kickstart from the Dbol? Run winny at what? Like 25mg? Did you get a lot of benefit from running winny for longer periods at lower doses?

tren acetate will hit your blood stream withing hours, why would you need d-bol? unless you like it and just want to run it, and by the way i am one of the guys who don't believe any of the tren myths, new research shows tren to be an excellent sarms. lots of people will disagree though, i think the reason there's so much confusion is that there is way too much fake tren out there. as far as wynstrol it does bind to progesterone receptors but gives an androgenic signal not a progestational one, [if progestational is a word]

 

[Bruce_Campbell]

How am I disagreeing with anyone's suggestions? I pointed out that i've run tren before, that winstrol is a DHT based steroid, and that i'd prefer to do everyday injects. I'm just clearing the air on what i've run and in some cases questioning the advice others are giving. In this case, that winny is not progesterone based. I would apologize for that but since i'm the one pinning i'd figure I would participate in a little give and take. Don't take that in anyway to mean that I do not appreciate the time anyone takes to give advice.

It sounds like I can drop the D-bol and yes, i really wanted to throw it in at the beginning. It sounds like Tren ace hits hard and fast so I'll drop the dbol.

I can't stress enough that i'm not here to flame/get flamed. All advice will be read and commented back. I appreciate all the time people would take to give me advice, even if it's just a few strokes on a keyboard.

It seems like every time someone makes a suggestion you go against what people are saying. So I wont tell you what i think, but I do agree w fitness by alex as far as running your test higher.

 

[Mr.Bungle]

I've run test at 250 and tren at 750, no sexual dysfunction. I've also run test at 750 and tren at 500 and had lots of sexual problems. My conclusion is test does not to be higher.

 

[Bruce_Campbell]

that's exactly what i've been hearing from some reliable sources. I however have not heard that the added test caused sexual problems but it makes sense. I was reading up on a bro that dilutes his tren so there is 8-10 mg of test in it and that's ALL he runs and it's his favorite cycle. I'm probably going to run the test the same but a lower dose of tren. You are talking about tren A, correct?

I've run test at 250 and tren at 750, no sexual dysfunction. I've also run test at 750 and tren at 500 and had lots of sexual problems. My conclusion is test does not to be higher.

 

[muscle_n_blood]

Personally, I like to run a good dose of test, at least equal to whatever else I'm running be it deca, tren, EQ, or whatever. People don't have identical responses to all these different compounds, so what is most important is for YOU to keep careful tabs on YOUR OWN responses. Your first several cycles are where you should find out as much as possible about what is good FOR YOU. You need to know what you want to repeat and what to avoid. If you are honest with yourself about what does what, to you and for you, your future cycles will be more productive, more economical, and you will risk fewer sides.

 

[diesel158]

that's exactly what i've been hearing from some reliable sources. I however have not heard that the added test caused sexual problems but it makes sense. I was reading up on a bro that dilutes his tren so there is 8-10 mg of test in it and that's ALL he runs and it's his favorite cycle. I'm probably going to run the test the same but a lower dose of tren. You are talking about tren A, correct?

what do you have against test? that's what your cycle should be based on, not tren. I'm gonna post something up that will make you think twice about even doing tren.