tren and nolva

[chemistery-brain]

i know that i cant use nolva as anti-e while im on tren or deca but ill be cycling test e and tren a and i want to use nolva as anti-e and bromocriptine for progesterone side do you think its possible to run them together to combat gyno i wont buy letro or arimidex because they are always ug or liquid version so why take the risk when my nolva and bromo are phamaceutical grade
so what do you guys think about that??

 

[chemistery-brain]

anyone can help???

 

[SupremeSportsEnhance]

anyone can help???

Nolvadex upregulates the Progesterone receptor, so do NOT use it with 19-Nortestosterone derivatives such as Trenbolone or Nandrolone.

Just use Letro.

 

[Swifto]

Nolvadex upregulates the Progesterone receptor, so do NOT use it with 19-Nortestosterone derivatives such as Trenbolone or Nandrolone.

Just use Letro.

Your still stating this in light of the data.

First fact.

The progesterone receptor (PgR) is synthesised IN RESPONSE to the estrogen receptor (ER) in NORMAL subjects. Key word: NORMAL

So, as Tamoxifen down-regulates the ER in breast tissue, the PgR will follow suit.

The data on Tamoxifen and PgR is on breast cancer victimes mostly. Some studies show an up-regulation, but its not consistant. Some up-regulate and some down-regulate. But they are not NORMAL subjects.

Am I going to have to go back and fourth with you again Ross?

Now dont go and post studies on estrogen sensitive tissues, like the endometrium Ross. Because that would be foolish.

 

[chemistery-brain]

Nolvadex upregulates the Progesterone receptor, so do NOT use it with 19-Nortestosterone derivatives such as Trenbolone or Nandrolone.

Just use Letro.

even with bromocreptine??

 

[Bigcheese]

Nolvadex upregulates the Progesterone receptor, so do NOT use it with 19-Nortestosterone derivatives such as Trenbolone or Nandrolone.

Just use Letro.

Dont know about your science but I agree that FOR ME Nolva withtren is a nogo.

Your still stating this in light of the data.

First fact.

The progesterone receptor (PgR) is synthesised IN RESPONSE to the estrogen receptor (ER) in NORMAL subjects. Key word: NORMAL

So, as Tamoxifen down-regulates the ER in breast tissue, the PgR will follow suit.

The data on Tamoxifen and PgR is on breast cancer victimes mostly. Some studies show an up-regulation, but its not consistant. Some up-regulate and some down-regulate. But they are not NORMAL subjects.

Am I going to have to go back and fourth with you again Ross?

Now dont go and post studies on estrogen sensitive tissues, like the endometrium Ross. Because that would be foolish.

Again, Dont know bout the science but I DO KNOW my personal experience. I was cycling Test E with deca, drol and tren wit anastrozole as AI. Notices nips gettin itching and swollen so I decided to add nolva also. Gyno accelerated exponetially (sp?) when i added the nolva, gyno came on like a house on fire. This was several years ago before I knew about bromo, caber, etc. and proggy gyno and progestins. Gyno got so bad I had it surgically removed less thana year later.

IMO, science aside, my experience is that FOR ME Nolva somehow accelerates proggy gyno when your cyclin progestins. Sensitizes prog. receptors or something. SInce then ive run bromo 2.5mg bid withl etro while on progestins and had no problems.

For what its worth.

BTW - I found a surgeon to do the bilateral gyno removal for $800 under LOCAL anesthesia.

BC

 

[Swifto]

Dont know about your science but I agree that FOR ME Nolva withtren is a nogo.



Again, Dont know bout the science but I DO KNOW my personal experience. I was cycling Test E with deca, drol and tren wit anastrozole as AI. Notices nips gettin itching and swollen so I decided to add nolva also. Gyno accelerated exponetially (sp?) when i added the nolva, gyno came on like a house on fire. This was several years ago before I knew about bromo, caber, etc. and proggy gyno and progestins. Gyno got so bad I had it surgically removed less thana year later.

IMO, science aside, my experience is that FOR ME Nolva somehow accelerates proggy gyno when your cyclin progestins. Sensitizes prog. receptors or something. SInce then ive run bromo 2.5mg bid withl etro while on progestins and had no problems.

For what its worth.

BTW - I found a surgeon to do the bilateral gyno removal for $800 under LOCAL anesthesia.

BC

Thanks for your feedback. As I stated, it doesnt down-regulate PgR in everyone. But in most cases it will.