tren and the lungs?

[joe bigboy]

hello, i have ran tren in many cycles in the past and have very rarely been bothered by fina cough, but here recently its happened more and more regularly. last week it happened 3 times with the last time being the worst by far, i was shooting in my quad which has a shit load of scar tissue so i have to push pretty hard to get it out of the syringe, got about half of it in and it hit me, the coughing and sweating. i went ahead and shot the rest of it in while coughing and for a good 15 min after i was having serious trouble breathing, now a week later i seem to have some chest congestion which i been taking a cough syrup for the past 3 days, but i was just wondering if tren can somehow lead to respiratory congestion or worse?
thanks
Joe

 

[neverbigenuf]

Bro I dont know a medical explanantion but I have had the same thing. I came down with the worst respitory infection, it went away and rebounded twice. It seemed like antibiotics and meds did nothing for it. One night I had to go to the emergency room because I was having such a coughing fit I couldn't breathe, I strained all the muscles in my neck, stomach, and back! I cut back on my fina dosages and just rested. It eventally got better but I am still hacking up stuff from time to time. I'm moving on to bigger and better gear! I liked the results but the means arent worth it.

 

[Fullybuilt]

I ran qv tren at 75mg eod in my last cycle. No coughing at all. This time im using a better brand(PRL) at 100mg eod and i've noticed im coughing all the time. For like 2months now. It never happens right after an injection, but rather all the time. I may just be sick though.

 

[Fastandfurious]

I don't think it has to do with tren.
I believe it has to do with the fact that tren is one of the least dense mg/ml and we have to inject a lot of oil.
The oil itself or the preservatives inside it could go into a vein,be contaminated,cause alergies etc..Myself i get a slight caugh with schering oils like testoviron and primobolan.The injection area also gets red ,swollen and painful for 2-3 days every single time,and they are 100% real from a pharmacy.
I think it has nothing to do with the steroid.

 

[StoryOfTheYear]

Man, I ran the BD Parabalon with none of these problems. Maybe you guys should give that a try? Also, does everyone aspirate? -StOrY-

 

[Massive G]

I think it has pretty much everything to do with the tren and the high solvent levels of injectables today...tren by itself is a very irritating compound in my experience even with made with powder and etc.

Everyone thinks BA and BB are safe but there are no studies on bb'ers or people who take megadoses of these solvent levels for years at a time.

There was a guy who died on the boards I believe of CHF, and he himself thought the incredible amount of scar tissue in the lungs they found was directly from heavy tren use over the years as he never had as much as any type of lung problem in his life that would cause the scarring. He did have a lot of coughing and burning in the lungs etc.

what do people think is happening to their lungs when they go into a coughing fit....

I don't know the answer and don't know the cure other than to some how reduce the amount of solvent levels in the gear you take.

PEACE

 

[joe bigboy]

thanks for the replies guys... i have another ?.... i've posted this on a couple boards different time over the past few years but can't really seem to find anyone that knows. my ? is can injecting a little into a vein accidently cause fluid to build up in the lungs and cause things like pheumonia?

 

[Armageddon]

Massive G may be onto something but I would really want to see some more studies on this. I however have never gotten the "cough". So I can't really relate. But I do know that fina effects your cardio conditioning for the first few weeks that you use it so there could be some type of correlation of the two.

 

[manboy270]

I wound up on my garage floor-thought I was going to suffocate I was coughing so much and then it went away. It actually happened twice but the last time was really hairy. It was homebrew tren from a kit. Haven't used it since(4-5 years ago?) Never happened with anything else before or since so who knows.....

 

[dwayno]

i started running tren ace for my show 100mg ed and I just got over a serious upper respiratory infections a few weeks ago, so I know I was perfectly healthy going into my diet.....I felt fine until about 2 weeks into the tren cycle I get this damn burning cough -- this happens alot when I run tren, I also blaze cheebs most of the year and this cough only comes when I start using tren, I believe something with the tren aromatizing in the lungs has something to do with the cough

 

[joe bigboy]

i been on it 4 weeks now and was planning to run it 6 more, but do you guys think i should just drop it now or continue on with it, what would you do?

 

[Tman2002]

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I've used tren acetate and got the "fina cough". I've got the cough about 10 times that I can remember.

Something interesting I had my lungs tested for the amount of air capacity they could hold. Its one of those test to they give to those who might have infazema/sp?/.
My lung capacity was 123% of what the normal person. Which is a good thing.

So what I'm saying is I dont seem to hav eany lung damage.

 

[LMR]

it's the acetate released into the bronchial passage ways of the lungs. The acetate releases instantly upon injection. The only guess why one time and not another is maybe users are injecting into or to close to a blood vessel.

 

[n4dmoney]

So is there a "best" location to inject Tren Ace to avoid the cough?

 

[LMR]

you find it let me know...lol

also the ester used in tren "acetate" is an acetic acid which is why this compound is so irritating to the lungs. In my guess, yes it causes problems probably chemical burns in the lungs with scarring. That's a logical guess though. I dont think there are any studies on this but just breaking down the elements of the steroid it makes sense.

So is there a "best" location to inject Tren Ace to avoid the cough?

 

[nandro]

i too had the tren cough back in the day. i thought this subject was taken care of years ago. try injecting in your delts. tren cough seems to be more predominant injecting in the lower parts of your body. i train a physician and she says that the tren is causing a systemic reaction. she could not explain why injecting tren in the thighs cause coughing and not so in the delts except for maybe increased blood flow. i've never ever had a reaction from injections in the delts.

btw...if you get the cough, try sticking your head in the freezer section of your fridge. inhaling the cold air lessons the epidsode greatly with me.

 

[n4dmoney]

Nice! Good info Nandro! So delts and freezer head if necessary!

 

[joe bigboy]

thanks for all the good info there... has anyone had a congestion like brochitis and shit develop from tren cough? it's been about 9 days now since this last happened and now i have a bad congestion in my chest like you would with bronchitis and starting this evening i been running a mild fever about 99.2.. i don't know if it's from the tren episodes or just a coincidence but it's got me thinking aobut it....

 

[scarfacebling]

it's the acetate released into the bronchial passage ways of the lungs. The acetate releases instantly upon injection. The only guess why one time and not another is maybe users are injecting into or to close to a blood vessel.

It has nothing to do with the acetate estster what is happing is tren made from pellets has alot of BA in it and your body uses your lungs to remove the BA. With most gear its not a problem because BA is relativly low. Now if its tren not made from pellets then I dont know what to tell you BTW this is all just being repeted from what I read on AM

 

[neverbigenuf]

For fina cough questions try www.basskilleronline.com, excellent read.