Tren gyno and Bromocriptine

jayl19 · Mar 25, 2013

Hi, am on a diet taking 500test cyp 1mg adex PD, about 2 weeks ago I added 500 tren enathate and now my nipple is killing, and a gyno lump from last year is growing.

i tried 20mg nolva PD for the last 3days but its made it worse, so it's defo the tren giving me prolactin right?

today I switched the 1mg adex to 2.5mg letro and added 1mg prami (don't have camba), and won't take any more tren.

is this the best thing to do for now? Got loads of letro but only 5 more prami tabs, also got no money for 3weeks

Also is bromo as good as camba, camba is very expensive

Cheers

Jizzmo · Mar 25, 2013

drop the test to 100mg, keep the tren at 500mg, drop adex/letro in maybe a week, keep using prami until you run out (get more, prolactin inhibitor is way more important than AI when you use tren, especially if you keep the test on the low side).

that should lower estrogen to low levels, prami keeps prolactin in check.
enjoy your side effect free tren run.

jayl19 · Mar 25, 2013

Jizzmo said:
drop the test to 100mg, keep the tren at 500mg, drop adex/letro in maybe a week, keep using prami until you run out (get more, prolactin inhibitor is way more important than AI when you use tren, especially if you keep the test on the low side).

that should lower estrogen to low levels, prami keeps prolactin in check.
enjoy your side effect free tren run.

Cheers, what do you think about bromo?

builtbeast · Mar 25, 2013

bromo will work fine to control prolactin. 1mg of pram is a lot. Usually .25-.5mg will suffice so you could cut your tabs in half or quarters and get 10-20 days out of it. By then you could get more prami, caber or bromo and still be on the tren in the meanwhile. You can try to lower test dose and increase AI to obliterate e2 levels but it doesn't always work and then you libido can be shot as well.

reecew · Mar 25, 2013

As said earlier 1mg prami is pretty high. It didnt make you nauseas the first few times at that dose? If i go straight to .5mg i get nauseas but that may just be how i respond. Only run the letro with your prami until most the gyno sides subside and slowly taper it off. Then the prami alone should handle it from there. Im really sensitive to tren but prami at .5mg daily does the trick for me.

tr · Mar 25, 2013

jayl19 said:
Hi, am on a diet taking 500test cyp 1mg adex PD, about 2 weeks ago I added 500 tren enathate and now my nipple is killing, and a gyno lump from last year is growing.

i tried 20mg nolva PD for the last 3days but its made it worse, so it's defo the tren giving me prolactin right?

today I switched the 1mg adex to 2.5mg letro and added 1mg prami (don't have camba), and won't take any more tren.

is this the best thing to do for now? Got loads of letro but only 5 more prami tabs, also got no money for 3weeks

Also is bromo as good as camba, camba is very expensive

Cheers

1mg prami daily??? How do you feel on this dosage? prami is ug lab or from pharmacy?

I've used bromo with tren it helped with the gyno (1.25 daily morning-night) but it made me feel like sh1t, switched to 0.27mg pharma prami and I feel like million bucks and no gyno

Growman · Mar 25, 2013

I definitely hope your prami is pharma grade. From what you said it sounds like its for sure being caused by prolactin. I would keep the letro dose low, no more than 2.5mg every other or every third day, as estrogen is most likely not the main problem. Def make sure you have legit prami, I'm just getting back in the gym after over a month off for gyno surgery, totally sucked.

jayl19 · Mar 25, 2013

Yeah I feel ill as fuck from the prami and yes it's pharma, didn't realise it was too higher a dose

Also at the same time I jabbed 1mg of mt2, then went gym 2 hours later, not good

Hmmm some good advice there lads, cheers

Not sure what to go for though ha

Tr - I think I'll order the bromo, 1.25mg tabs and take daily, and try them, can't afford camba ATM, just paid my holiday off

Growman · Mar 25, 2013

At least you know the prami is real. That should be enough to last you until the Bromo arrives if you drop it to .5 or .25 a day. I was told to take prami at night before bed, that way any nausea you experience will be during sleep. But at the lower dose sides shouldn't be bad. I would switch to Bromo like tr said, i have heard it works well and less sides.

buck1973 · Mar 25, 2013

Its been stated here and many other places Bromo and only bromo for tren Gyno

Jizzmo · Mar 26, 2013

jayl19 said:
Cheers, what do you think about bromo?

never used anything else but caber, works for me... prami sides are supposed to suck more than bromo from what i read... i'd rate them caber > bromo > prami, have only used caber though.

Big D84 · Mar 26, 2013

Caber and Bromo are my two favorites

destin · Mar 26, 2013

blood test may be in order.

jayl19 · Mar 27, 2013

Growman said:
I definitely hope your prami is pharma grade. From what you said it sounds like its for sure being caused by prolactin. I would keep the letro dose low, no more than 2.5mg every other or every third day, as estrogen is most likely not the main problem. Def make sure you have legit prami, I'm just getting back in the gym after over a month off for gyno surgery, totally sucked.

How did your surgery go?

Do they cut the gyno out, lipo the fat cells and remove the gland so you can't get gyno ever again?

Am scared to get it done i case you can see scars or they butcher my muscle and it obvious when I compete with low body fat

Growman · Mar 27, 2013

My Surgery went well, thanks for asking. They cut out the gyno, lipo the fat and removed the gland just like you said. My doc wouldn't say that i could never get it again, probably because he didn't want the liability. He also stated that he left a small amount of gland in so my lower chest wouldn't fall totally flat. He showed me pic's of a top level competitor he did and it looked amazing, he said for that guy he took everything out including all of the fat in his chest because the guy keeps himself in such good condition.

Number one thing, pic a good doc and don't be afraid to spend the extra money. From what it sounds like to me though you still might be able to treat yours with drugs, def wait and see if you can take care of it like that. Surgery is final option. The only muscle you will lose is from missing training, the surgery should not destroy muscle.

jayl19 · Mar 27, 2013

Growman said:
My Surgery went well, thanks for asking. They cut out the gyno, lipo the fat and removed the gland just like you said. My doc wouldn't say that i could never get it again, probably because he didn't want the liability. He also stated that he left a small amount of gland in so my lower chest wouldn't fall totally flat. He showed me pic's of a top level competitor he did and it looked amazing, he said for that guy he took everything out including all of the fat in his chest because the guy keeps himself in such good condition.

Number one thing, pic a good doc and don't be afraid to spend the extra money. From what it sounds like to me though you still might be able to treat yours with drugs, def wait and see if you can take care of it like that. Surgery is final option. The only muscle you will lose is from missing training, the surgery should not destroy muscle.

Cheers for the great reply

Yeah, you can't see mine, just feel it, it's my own fault for being a cheapskate and skimping on the ai's and anti prolactin

When am relaxed my nipples look pointy like there full of water but wen I train or am cold there look fine. You can't see the lump at all but am only around 9% bf

Cheers again

Growman · Mar 27, 2013

Yeah there are several different kinds of gyno. I never had lumps and they never hurt, but it looked terrible if i had on a tight shirt, or my shirt off. i would need to wear a really tight beater under a tight tee to make it look ok. Def became too troublesome and i just had to do the surgery.

As long as it hasn't been there too long it will probably clear up. I know estro gyno shrinks from letro, i cured a flare up 5 years ago with it. This last time it would shrink down, but come back as i lowered the letro dose so surgery was the only option. Im pretty sure the dopamine agonists will take care of yours as it has not been there too long. Once it settles in your in trouble.

Big Barry · Mar 27, 2013

Jizzmo said:
never used anything else but caber, works for me... prami sides are supposed to suck more than bromo from what i read... i'd rate them caber > bromo > prami, have only used caber though.

I'm exactly the same... i've always used Caber and it's been very effective for me, so i've never felt the need to switch. If it ain't broke....

jayl19 · Apr 2, 2013

UPDATE***

ok so thought if update my situation and ask a few more questions

I dropped the tren but its enathate so still in system till Sunday
Taking 2.5mg letro ED
talking .33 prami Ed

About 2hours after my prami tab my gyno starts throbbing for a few hours, this normal?

Iv found a cheap place to get caba but not sure how much I will need with me flaring up from 500mg tren PW

Does 0.5 mon/wed/fri sound enough?