Tren Hex (parabolan) vs Tren A/E

[joeyliftss]

Exactly, methyltren is a different steroid than "regular" trenbolone. Mike Arnold described this difference very nicely in his posts.





How often do you take Tren Ace and Tren Enan? I think one of the factors contributing to Tren side effects (aside from histamine, which bbextreme described VERY well in his article) is concentration fluctuations.

If I take Tren Ace ED and Tren Enan E2D (of course not at the same time), I don't feel any concentration fluctuations and it's fine. And I don't notice much difference between the two esters either. If someone is taking Tren Ace E2D and Tren Enan E4D, they should try more frequent, smaller doses and see how the side effects go.

so I pin everyday small doses w/ Tren-H ; noticeable side effect that bothers me are night sweats when i go over 350mg/wk; also only when I eat high carbs close to bed-time.

 

[KingOfSushi]

I personally like Ace. Always got along with it well.

 

[juicedmn]

I personally like Ace. Always got along with it well.

Same here. Tried E and hex but A is always the best for me. Less sides and packs more of a punch imo.. every couple years I fall for the convenience of E but I’m quickly reminded it ain’t worth it. Ace all the way

 

[A50#]

Same here. Tried E and hex but A is always the best for me. Less sides and packs more of a punch imo.. every couple years I fall for the convenience of E but I’m quickly reminded it ain’t worth it. Ace all the way

When you say Tren Enan isn't worth it can you elaborate?

 

[juicedmn]

I just don’t seem to get the same strength gains or as cut while on E for whatever reason. I tend to respond better to ace. Just like I prefer npp > deca. Same drug but the shorter esters I just tend to notice more.

 

[Methyl-Tren-Cereal]

Actually this is not the case, there's more to it, the alteration to the 17b has an impact on how the drug behaves, think about methyl tren and look for another one use on horses.

The trenbolone molecule is identitcal across tren ace, hex, and e. It's litteraly just a difference in the ester.... Methyltren is trenbolone with a methylgroup inserted INTO the molecule, ofc it's different

 

[graybass]

Many so-called Tren gurus have said that Tren A is absorbed faster and hits harder with less. Of course it leaves your system faster.

 

[mexbeast]

The trenbolone molecule is identitcal across tren ace, hex, and e. It's litteraly just a difference in the ester.... Methyltren is trenbolone with a methylgroup inserted INTO the molecule, ofc it's different

And? Like i don't know that! The methyl group is added to the 17th position just like the ester, and why is the methyl group not broken off or removed from the tren molecule?. For reference check altrenogest, (alliltrenbolone) i used to think the same way, but there's a ton of evidence to support my thinking, the alteration of the 17th position definitely plays a role in how the aas behaves

 

[Mufasa123]

And? Like i don't know that! The methyl group is added to the 17th position just like the ester, and why is the methyl group not broken off or removed from the tren molecule?. For reference check altrenogest, (alliltrenbolone) i used to think the same way, but there's a ton of evidence to support my thinking, the alteration of the 17th position definitely plays a role in how the aas behaves

Equipoise vs dbol is an example of this. Same molecule, attach 17aa and make it dbol. Very different properties. Not like estrification at all.

I know you know this but an example can help others.

 

[Methyl-Tren-Cereal]

And? Like i don't know that! The methyl group is added to the 17th position just like the ester, and why is the methyl group not broken off or removed from the tren molecule?. For reference check altrenogest, (alliltrenbolone) i used to think the same way, but there's a ton of evidence to support my thinking, the alteration of the 17th position definitely plays a role in how the aas behaves

What are you even arguing bro? No one is saying methyl tren is the same drug as Tren. if you're confused on what im saying, Tren Ace, Tren Hex, and Tren Enanthate are the same drug. They have different outcomes in the body due to the speed the ester is cleaved. once the ester is cleaved they are identical. Methyltren never comes tren in the body...

 

[mexbeast]

Arguing? Certainly not.

 

[Astro95]

Always used Ace, but E feeling really good right now. Essentially 0 sides. Happy camper.

 

[watchtymeflyyy]

Always used Ace, but E feeling really good right now. Essentially 0 sides. Happy camper.

Same with me… Always used Ace, but recently used E and am very happy

 

[silvaback]

i prefer tren e feels less harsh

 

[dudebroftw]

I prefer tren e, don’t notice much difference then tren a long term.

 

[nemesis66]

Pour moi, le train hexagonal est le meilleur !
C'est la seule tendance commercialisée pour un usage humain.
À l'époque, en France, il y avait le Parabolan, dont tout le monde s'accordait à dire qu'il était le meilleur stéroïde au monde.

 

[Damaged1]

I have only tried Ace but definitely curious about Hex. I have some E but haven't opened it yet but will probably give that a try as well.

One thing i have notice while doing daily Ace injections, is that I am completely fine right up until i hit the 60mg mark then its like a light switch for negative sides.

If i stick to 50mg, I feel amazing.

 

[cage99]

I have only tried Ace but definitely curious about Hex. I have some E but haven't opened it yet but will probably give that a try as well.

One thing i have notice while doing daily Ace injections, is that I am completely fine right up until i hit the 60mg mark then its like a light switch for negative sides.

If i stick to 50mg, I feel amazing.

Chances are that’s the magic number for you specifically where your mast calls are being irritated and cause a release of excess histamine. Adding in DAO to aid in metabolizing the excess histamine will improve your experience. There’s a thread here by @bbxtreme - understanding Tren. Take a look!

Cage

 

[luki7788]

Of course, it might be possible, but there’s really no solid evidence showing that increased histamine levels cause those symptoms, or that Trenbolone actually raises histamine. From what I’ve seen, there are no clinical studies confirming that. It’s just another idea that popped up in the bodybuilding community and now a lot of people talk about it. But whether it’s true or not — hard to say. I’m not saying it’s impossible, but I think it’s very likely that it’s more of a placebo effect rather than a real physiological response from taking DAO, the enzyme that helps metabolize histamine.

 

[hotrod]

You would be hard pressed to tell the difference between Hex and enanthate, either one of those has less sides than ace