Tren

[rradam]

So I've been reading more about low test/high tren/caber cycles, and considering it. What are people's experiences and what ratios were you using (short or long ester). I'm considering cyp/trenE/superdrol and/or 1-test cyp and/or masteronE. Or a short ester prop/trenA/superdrol/masteron.

My experience with 75mg of trenA eod (prop 100mg ed/tren ace 75mg eod/turinabol) was far less than spectacular, some gyno, more than with test solo, some strength, little size, not much else. So I'm a little apprehensive, but given trens track record, I figure it's worth another shot, maybe I just need to approach it differently.

 

[czyc]

So I've been reading more about low test/high tren/caber cycles, and considering it. What are people's experiences and what ratios were you using (short or long ester). I'm considering cyp/trenE/superdrol and/or 1-test cyp and/or masteronE. Or a short ester prop/trenA/superdrol/masteron.

My experience with 75mg of trenA eod (prop 100mg ed/tren ace 75mg eod/turinabol) was far less than spectacular, some gyno, more than with test solo, some strength, little size, not much else. So I'm a little apprehensive, but given trens track record, I figure it's worth another shot, maybe I just need to approach it differently.

Forget the tren-e and the orals..

This will give you spectacular results..

50mg ED Tren-ace (gradually increase up to 100mg ED)
25mg ED Test-prop
50mg ED Mast-prop

run this for 12-14 weeks and if you aren't blown away by the results your gear is bunk.

 

[Elvia1023]

Forget the tren-e and the orals..

This will give you spectacular results..

50mg ED Tren-ace (gradually increase up to 100mg ED)
25mg ED Test-prop
50mg ED Mast-prop

run this for 12-14 weeks and if you aren't blown away by the results your gear is bunk.

Another tren thread... what a surprise.

Although czyc does make an excellent point. I would personally run it abit shorter though. If a guy can't make noticeable changes running 50-100mg tren a every day then he shouldn't be using gear at all (excluding the guys who use tonnes of tren all the time ).

 

[rradam]

Sounds good, I prefer shorter esters as a rule too, with 8-10 week cycles. Most turn out great. Most of my training now (well starting in about 8 weeks) is going into strength, with keeping weight gain as minimal as possible.