TrenE dosing?

[WskyCowboy]

Ever looked into Tren Hex? I ran it at 500mg and had zero side effects at all, just a little aggression that was controllable. Blood work untouched. For me it was just an Angry Primo

Using Ace now and there are more sides but gains are better

don't most not suggest it because of how bad it is on the body even compared to normal tren e?

 

[luki7788]

don't most not suggest it because of how bad it is on the body even compared to normal tren e?

wtf... lol

 

[WskyCowboy]

wtf... lol

im serious, havent heard from very many good things about it. surprised you didnt have any sides aside from anger.

 

[luki7788]

im serious, havent heard from very many good things about it. surprised you didnt have any sides aside from anger.

Tren is Tren regardless of the ester it is the same substance, longer esters are simply more stable and there are no such fluctuations in concentration, which is why the side effects may seem smaller

 

[Mufasa123]

don't most not suggest it because of how bad it is on the body even compared to normal tren e?

Just for record, Tren Hex is the same as the French human approved pharma Parabolan. Basically the original and only human tren and tested accordingly before it was available to market. Finajet was tren ace and for vet use (finaplix was same in pellets etc). Most of that is long gone esp Parabolan.

Parabolan/Tren Hex has the reputation for LEAST sides and best tolerated among tren users. Now maybe that's stable blood levels, legit magic or bullshit but that's the long term bro reputation. Other than the magic reason, enanthate and Hex are both long esters so SHOULD be fairly equivalent. At a minimum esters shouldn't majorly change blood work impacts on their own so should be similar.

All that said, tren is a strong drug so ester impacts and blood levels matter (beyond ester weight/active ingredient) and many do hold the ester alone changes the feel and effectiveness. Personally I've only used Tren A and Tren E (will likely buy some Hex soon as my Tren E is low) - I don't notice any difference other than maybe ester weight and frequency of injection which for me has been 3-4x weekly on acetate (ED gives me nothing more) and 2x on enanthate in past.

 

[st114]

Kurt claims that tren hex is a shitty drug just like NPP..

and being serious I won't comment on hex because I've never used it because few labs have it in their offer, but I definitely prefer tren E over tren Ace - I'm talking about myself personally

I think I’m going to compile a list of all the AAS Kurt says are bad/useless… tren hex, NPP, Test C, and some others, and that will be my next cycle

 

[st114]

Just for record, Tren Hex is the same as the French human approved pharma Parabolan. Basically the original and only human tren and tested accordingly before it was available to market. Finajet was tren ace and for vet use (finaplix was same in pellets etc). Most of that is long gone esp Parabolan.

Parabolan/Tren Hex has the reputation for LEAST sides and best tolerated among tren users. Now maybe that's stable blood levels, legit magic or bullshit but that's the long term bro reputation. Other than the magic reason, enanthate and Hex are both long esters so SHOULD be fairly equivalent. At a minimum esters shouldn't majorly change blood work impacts on their own so should be similar.

All that said, tren is a strong drug so ester impacts and blood levels matter (beyond ester weight/active ingredient) and many do hold the ester alone changes the feel and effectiveness. Personally I've only used Tren A and Tren E (will likely buy some Hex soon as my Tren E is low) - I don't notice any difference other than maybe ester weight and frequency of injection which for me has been 3-4x weekly on acetate (ED gives me nothing more) and 2x on enanthate in past.

You and Luki are spot on.

I don’t think Hex is some magical potion like some people do, Tren is Tren at the end of the day.
But for whatever reason I had zero sides and great gains and bloodwork on Hex. I’m not a science guy at all, but my theory is that specific ester works very well with my body for Tren, keeping things very stable. If I remember correctly it’s a longer ester than Tren E.
But effects wise, Tren all does the same thing. Ace a little faster with more of a kick, but the instability in blood levels may cause more sides.
Day 1 stuff I don’t need to deep dive into

I’d say for older guys worried about Tren sides and are going to use Tren anyway, give Hex a try. I injected it daily too (all my gear is split up ED), which may have helped too

 

[mexbeast]

I respect you as much as so many of the members here, and i would never argue with you, but i disagree on this, i used to think that the ester did change anything but now i truly believe that the ester does have an impact on how aas work, it's like comparing test E to methyl test, methyl test effects differently regardless of how you take it, it's the alteration at the 17th position that some how changes how aas work

 

[slesh]

You and Luki are spot on.

I don’t think Hex is some magical potion like some people do, Tren is Tren at the end of the day.
But for whatever reason I had zero sides and great gains and bloodwork on Hex. I’m not a science guy at all, but my theory is that specific ester works very well with my body for Tren, keeping things very stable. If I remember correctly it’s a longer ester than Tren E.
But effects wise, Tren all does the same thing. Ace a little faster with more of a kick, but the instability in blood levels may cause more sides.
Day 1 stuff I don’t need to deep dive into

I’d say for older guys worried about Tren sides and are going to use Tren anyway, give Hex a try. I injected it daily too (all my gear is split up ED), which may have helped too

No - it’s between Ace and Enanthate.

 

[Mufasa123]

I respect you as much as so many of the members here, and i would never argue with you, but i disagree on this, i used to think that the ester did change anything but now i truly believe that the ester does have an impact on how aas work, it's like comparing test E to methyl test, methyl test effects differently regardless of how you take it, it's the alteration at the 17th position that some how changes how aas work

17aa makes a complete different drug. Dianabol is identical to Equipoise except that equipoise lacks the methyl 17aa group. This is known and accepted.

Estrification is well understood, long in use (like closer to a century) and common in drugs not just aas.

THAT SAID, I also don't dismiss what you or @st114 are saying. I know a few people who know this science up and down. When it comes to tren, they have run it all and swear by Tren Hex as least sides. They know it "shouldn't matter" and they know it's not purely ester length as they prefer it to enanthate. They even laugh at themselves for doing it. Hell, maybe it's placebo but if it helps and works I'd ride that train too.

 

[302]

I like tren no higher then 350mg.
Any higher my sleep gets wrecked.

 

[st114]

No - it’s between Ace and Enanthate.

I’ve seen a few websites state that the half life of Hex is almost twice that of E
Then I’ve seen some others say what you’re saying. I’m not sure honestly, and I am pretty retarded so..
From my experience Hex did kick in faster so I’m sure you’re right

 

[302]

I’ve seen a few websites state that the half life of Hex is almost twice that of E
Then I’ve seen some others say what you’re saying. I’m not sure honestly, and I am pretty retarded so..
From my experience Hex did kick in faster so I’m sure you’re right

I’ve heard the same dispute with hex ester. Who knows!! Just pin that shit.

 

[slesh]

I’ve seen a few websites state that the half life of Hex is almost twice that of E
Then I’ve seen some others say what you’re saying. I’m not sure honestly, and I am pretty retarded so..
From my experience Hex did kick in faster so I’m sure you’re right

I recommend you stop visiting those websites

 

[slesh]

I find the sides of Tren E to last significantly longer than Tren Hex when coming off for whatever that’s worth

 

[Biggerp73]

Asking questions can give you a rough idea of what has worked for other people. It's a good idea. But nothing replaces doing experimentation for yourself. In medicine the fact that individuals have at times vastly different responses to the same drug is well established. What works for one may not work for you. Some guys love drug X and don't need much, other guys hate it even if they use a ton, but love something else that the other guy doesn't care for. If your going to try a new drug, be smart, start low and stay there for a while to assess effects before adjusting or increasing, slowly, in margins and not all at once. And if you are interested in multiple different drugs, don't change more than one variable at a time, or start two new drugs at a time, otherwise you have no way of knowing which effect is coming from which change.

 

[fisther69]

I like E because it feels like I’m always saturated with teen and no peaks or valleys…

The problem is I’m always saturated with it and the older I get the more it effects me mentally and I just can’t stop taking and be ok in a few days..shit sticks around