Triceps tendon rupture - opinions

[TrippplePPP]

M@nu, I agree with other that say go and do stuff you wouldn’t normally do while recovering even though you’d rather be in the gym. Long walks are perfect and therapeutic. Visit old friends, call old friends, read a book…. One day your recovery will be a memory. Also don’t rush the recovery. Retears happen and you don’t want that. Slow and steady wins the race. Good luck dude, hope you get in somewhere soon for your surgery.

 

[M@NU]

M@nu, I agree with other that say go and do stuff you wouldn’t normally do while recovering even though you’d rather be in the gym. Long walks are perfect and therapeutic. Visit old friends, call old friends, read a book…. One day your recovery will be a memory. Also don’t rush the recovery. Retears happen and you don’t want that. Slow and steady wins the race. Good luck dude, hope you get in somewhere soon for your surgery.

well, in my mind i am ready for surgery imo.
but only if its done within the next 2 weeks.
i wont make surgery if its done in 4+ weeks when the chances for full success are slim.
docs dont care about the outcome.

 

[Bbuildersteve]

the medical professionals here are a joke unfortunately. I assume i can find more experiences here on the board.
but of course i have to get some opinions of the orthos here

What’s going on guys. Yes I just had tricep surgery back on July 9. I live here in Columbus, Ohio and we have a lot of phenomenal surgeons. I was lucky to have an ex Ohio State football player do my surgery so he knows the importance of getting back in the gym. I’m about three weeks post operational surgery, and I am already doing chest flyes, able to train back pretty well, shoulders. I’m not doing any pressing movements and chest. I’m not doing any pro pressing movements yet. I will probably wait another two weeks before I attempt any pressing movements. A lot of surgeons are still stuck in the past. I will say one thing that’s already been helping is taking BPC 157 along with HGH. I changed my dose on the HGH. I’m now taking three units in the morning and then I take another two units before I go to bed. I take my BPC 157 500 MCG‘s three times a day. And it is made of a difference within the last three short weeks .
Hgh and the BPC I’m running @SunrisePharma products.

 

[M@NU]

What’s going on guys. Yes I just had tricep surgery back on July 9. I live here in Columbus, Ohio and we have a lot of phenomenal surgeons. I was lucky to have an ex Ohio State football player do my surgery so he knows the importance of getting back in the gym. I’m about three weeks post operational surgery, and I am already doing chest flyes, able to train back pretty well, shoulders. I’m not doing any pressing movements and chest. I’m not doing any pro pressing movements yet. I will probably wait another two weeks before I attempt any pressing movements. A lot of surgeons are still stuck in the past. I will say one thing that’s already been helping is taking BPC 157 along with HGH. I changed my dose on the HGH. I’m now taking three units in the morning and then I take another two units before I go to bed. I take my BPC 157 500 MCG‘s three times a day. And it is made of a difference within the last three short weeks .
Hgh and the BPC I’m running @SunrisePharma products.

sounds great.
i already planned my recovery phase and have everything on hand.
i have enough tb500 and bpc and hgh to run sky high dosages (i think ill start out with 2mg bpc + 2mg tb500 daily and 10iu hgh),
NPP around 150mg weekly, 20mg anavar for collagen synthesis, i will take 5g of novasol curcumin daily and 3g vit c.
but the first step is to get the damn surgery.

 

[lifter]

sounds great.
i already planned my recovery phase and have everything on hand.
i have enough tb500 and bpc and hgh to run sky high dosages (i think ill start out with 2mg bpc + 2mg tb500 daily and 10iu hgh),
NPP around 150mg weekly, 20mg anavar for collagen synthesis, i will take 5g of novasol curcumin daily and 3g vit c.
but the first step is to get the damn surgery.

I am surprised surgery is still an option as the window for surgery with a triceps tendon tear is normally 2 to 3 weeks.
Is your tear not a full tear?

I tore my distal triceps tendon. I didn't need anything other than an x-ray because it was clear on the x-ray (combined with my examination) what happened. You could see on the x-ray where even part of the bone where the tendon attached to my elbow had chipped off. I had no strength. It didn't hurt very much anymore (intense pain for 2 min when it first happened) but if the bottom part of my arm was folded up and the doc put pressure against it, I could provide no resistance (in other words, he had minimal pressure and I couldn't straighten my arm out).

I had surgery within two weeks of the injury. They used a metal mesh to reattach the tendon to my elbow after drilling a hole in the bone. All healed up now and doc says pretty much impossible for that tendon to rupture at the same spot again.

It did take me a good year to get close to where my strength was before. About 2 months after surgery I had worked my way back up to being able to lift just the bar on bench.

 

[Fa Seeshus]

Get the surgery. I didn't and besides the appearance issues, at some angles of resistance you don't have power and this throws more stress on your shoulder.

 

[M@NU]

I am surprised surgery is still an option as the window for surgery with a triceps tendon tear is normally 2 to 3 weeks.
Is your tear not a full tear?

I tore my distal triceps tendon. I didn't need anything other than an x-ray because it was clear on the x-ray (combined with my examination) what happened. You could see on the x-ray where even part of the bone where the tendon attached to my elbow had chipped off. I had no strength. It didn't hurt very much anymore (intense pain for 2 min when it first happened) but if the bottom part of my arm was folded up and the doc put pressure against it, I could provide no resistance (in other words, he had minimal pressure and I couldn't straighten my arm out).

I had surgery within two weeks of the injury. They used a metal mesh to reattach the tendon to my elbow after drilling a hole in the bone. All healed up now and doc says pretty much impossible for that tendon to rupture at the same spot again.

It did take me a good year to get close to where my strength was before. About 2 months after surgery I had worked my way back up to being able to lift just the bar on bench.

according to the Ortho it is a full tear.
Retraction right now is only 1,9cm so surgery is an option and success rate is very high.
I can still push against resistance and i can still machine bench press some weight (around 30-50% power output i would say)
there are surgeries that are done after months/years. It all comes down to the retraction of the tendon.
Some guys have retraction up to 8cm. This makes surgery very hard but it is still possible

 

[M@NU]

so i am pissed but at the same time a bit happy right now.
I went to the elbow and shoulder clinic this morning. got up at 5:30 AM, drove 2,5 hours, arrived there at 8AM,
waited FUCKING 4 hours and then got called in.
2 docs (1 regular doc and the "chief doctor", not sure if its called like that in english) were there.
I had to do some movements with my arm, extension against resistance, turning my forarm around etc.
Both were a bit confused why i still had to much function in my arm and that it shouldnt be possible with a full tendon rupture.
So both checked out my MRI pictures and both agreed that the MRI doesnt show a full tear bit a partial tear with around 30% of the tendon torn.
Both advised against surgery and i got send home. both are sure that it will get better in the next weeks..

 

[Bbuildersteve]

Get the surgery. I didn't and besides the appearance issues, at some angles of resistance you don't have power and this throws more stress on your shoulder.

Agree here. Definitely get the surgery. I got mine, 10 days after I tore mine from a 6mm distal tear to a 11mm. Doc used 8 anchors, and drilled and threaded through the bone. I’m 3 weeks post op, and already doing Tricep extensions with 20lbs and using resistance bands daily for 100 reps. Icing every 3-4 hours for swelling and on 1 meloxicam daily.

 

[lifter]

so i am pissed but at the same time a bit happy right now.
I went to the elbow and shoulder clinic this morning. got up at 5:30 AM, drove 2,5 hours, arrived there at 8AM,
waited FUCKING 4 hours and then got called in.
2 docs (1 regular doc and the "chief doctor", not sure if its called like that in english) were there.
I had to do some movements with my arm, extension against resistance, turning my forarm around etc.
Both were a bit confused why i still had to much function in my arm and that it shouldnt be possible with a full tendon rupture.
So both checked out my MRI pictures and both agreed that the MRI doesnt show a full tear bit a partial tear with around 30% of the tendon torn.
Both advised against surgery and i got send home. both are sure that it will get better in the next weeks..

That's good news actually bro like you said. Something for sure didn't add up to me which is why I asked before. You wouldn't be able to jack shit with that tricep having sustained a full tendon tear.

Your healing schedule has shortened immensely. Good luck and take it easy. You don't want that turning into a full tear.

 

[lifter]

Agree here. Definitely get the surgery. I got mine, 10 days after I tore mine from a 6mm distal tear to a 11mm. Doc used 8 anchors, and drilled and threaded through the bone. I’m 3 weeks post op, and already doing Tricep extensions with 20lbs and using resistance bands daily for 100 reps. Icing every 3-4 hours for swelling and on 1 meloxicam daily.

Fast healer bro. How is the pain doing those movements?
Did you have to get staples? I did. I believe it was 2 weeks before I got those removed and another week before I could even start PT.

 

[M@NU]

That's good news actually bro like you said. Something for sure didn't add up to me which is why I asked before. You wouldn't be able to jack shit with that tricep having sustained a full tendon tear.

Your healing schedule has shortened immensely. Good luck and take it easy. You don't want that turning into a full tear.

yeah the chief doc told me i should do no pressing movements and no triceps movements for the next 4 weeks, then see an ortho again and then start light to strenghen the tendon/muscle.
you know, the worst part is that my ortho here who i visited on friday and who said i need surgery asap did not even look at my arm or made function tests with my arm. She glimpsed over the mri and told me "yes, as it says, full rupture, surgery asap".
i am disappointed because i felt like crap for the whole weekend and week. Bodybuilding, as i already said, is immensly important for me, she doesnt even know what she can do with such a misdiagnosis..
but i will get another opinion next week friday. Another 2 hour drive and probably waiting time but i want to be sure it is no complete tear

 

[M@NU]

so bad/good news, i dont even know it anymore since right now im a bit down and cant think clearly.
yes, it is a partial rupture. No, its not 30-35%, the tendon is only hold by some threads and it wont get any better, more like the opposite, it will get worse the more time goes by..
chief doctor offered surgery and told me they would use titanium anchor so its additional stability.
i took his offer and will get surgery on 19.08.

 

[M@NU]

and anyone has any suggestions how i should structure my diet/"Supps" to speed up healing?
as posted i think about:
30mg test c daily
15mg NPP daily
20mg ANavar daily
12iu HGH
1,5mg bpc + 1,5mg TB500 daily in 3 shots
collagen supp
vitamin c 4-5g daily
Curcumin Novasol 5-7g daily (yes, thats 10-14 caps, idc about cost right now)
8g omega 3 fish oil

anything else that makes sense?
thanks guys!

 

[lm89]

100mg test and 2-4iu gh. You’re not going to recover much faster using your method, maybe 1-2 weeks if you’re lucky. Be diligent in exercising your tricep back into motion. You’ve outlined a small cycle to recover from a tricep tear. Wait til you can utilize those compounds for what they are meant to do.

 

[M@NU]

100mg test and 2-4iu gh. You’re not going to recover much faster using your method, maybe 1-2 weeks if you’re lucky. Be diligent in exercising your tricep back into motion. You’ve outlined a small cycle to recover from a tricep tear. Wait til you can utilize those compounds for what they are meant to do.

with 100mg test (15mg daily) i was barely at mid range of the range.
My usual trt is 20mg which gets me to around 800. Wouldnt like to be below that because i feel best around that level.
NPP and anavar low dosed for additional collagen synthesis and i guess i wont do much damage with 10-15mg NPP daily and 20mg var, no?

 

[lifter]

so bad/good news, i dont even know it anymore since right now im a bit down and cant think clearly.
yes, it is a partial rupture. No, its not 30-35%, the tendon is only hold by some threads and it wont get any better, more like the opposite, it will get worse the more time goes by..
chief doctor offered surgery and told me they would use titanium anchor so its additional stability.
i took his offer and will get surgery on 19.08.

Absolutely the right choice bro. You'll rip off your arm to tear the tendon from that spot again after surgery.

You are lucky it was not a full tear because surgery would likely no longer be an option considering the amount of time that has passed.

Its gonna suck for a while but you got this bro and you will get back to your normal self.

 

[lifter]

with 100mg test (15mg daily) i was barely at mid range of the range.
My usual trt is 20mg which gets me to around 800. Wouldnt like to be below that because i feel best around that level.
NPP and anavar low dosed for additional collagen synthesis and i guess i wont do much damage with 10-15mg NPP daily and 20mg var, no?

IMO just keep yourself in range and drop everything else except hgh, bpc and tb500.
I went through more of a cardio and high rep weight training phase during the first half of my recovery.

Edit: Other non PEDs supplements are likely fine to use. Heck, even if they don't aid in recovery they could give you a placebo effect.

 

[M@NU]

IMO just keep yourself in range and drop everything else except hgh, bpc and tb500.
I went through more of a cardio and high rep weight training phase during the first half of my recovery.

Edit: Other non PEDs supplements are likely fine to use. Heck, even if they don't aid in recovery they could give you a placebo effect.

thanks for your opinion buddy!
guess you are right. Ill drop the test to my trt dosage and maybe add 25mg proviron for mood.. because i guess i need something that enhances my mood a bit since its not the best right now and i guess it isnt the best after surgery either
i think there is no other option than cardio and high rep weight training at the beginning.
training legs or the left side of my buddy i would still need my right arm to stabilize my body for 95% of the exercises and since this wont be doable (i have to wear a splint the first 5-6 weeks) i have to use a weight i can move without grabbing the handle and "pulling myself in"

 

[EnhancedFatGrappler]

i love the german healthcare system..

Getting an appointment at any medical specialist doctor is almost impossible. Every Cardiologist in 50 km has 3+ months waiting lists. Lung Doctor all booked out for this year already. We just don't have enough doctors, and too many sick people, not a good country to get sick.

and anyone has any suggestions how i should structure my diet/"Supps" to speed up healing?
as posted i think about:
30mg test c daily
15mg NPP daily
20mg ANavar daily
12iu HGH
1,5mg bpc + 1,5mg TB500 daily in 3 shots
collagen supp
vitamin c 4-5g daily
Curcumin Novasol 5-7g daily (yes, thats 10-14 caps, idc about cost right now)
8g omega 3 fish oil

anything else that makes sense?
thanks guys!

Seconding the gear advice from @lm89 - only take test around TRT Dose, a bit of hgh. Keep the supplements in, keep protein high, the extra collagen is a very good idea. Find a good PT in your area, and do your rehab program diligently every day, that will help the most.

Keep the gear for when you are healed up ;-)!