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TRT numbers are great, but not feeling it.

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So I've been on 100mg, 150mg, 200mg and up to 350mg weekly.

There are periods where it's been well, I was pretty good on 200mg weekly with 500iu HCG and 1/4 aromasin daily, I was actually damn good on that but it just kind of stopped working after about 6 months or so. Meaning very low libido and major ED.

My numbers on paper are great though, even on 100mg weekly:
Total Test 790
Free Test 21
E2: 32 (this was a bit high for me, I seem to feel better in the very low 20's)

I think those are really good numbers for just 100mg taken at trough, 4 days post injection.

The thing is on paper it looks great but in real life, I feel nothing from it. Around 350 with half an aromasin daily I start to feel some of the energy, drive and sexual benefits. The good news is my blood work comes out perfectly fine, but it's still pretty high.

I should note I'm like this with almost everything, I usually have to double or triple the dose of most medications to get anything out of them. Local anesthetic doesn't do anything for me etc. so I don't know if it's the same issue with the testosterone. I've had extensive blood work, I do cardio year round, my diet is on point, I take lots of supplements for endothelial and vascular health along with low-dose cialis every night.

Like I said, on paper, I should be getting great results. In the real world, I need a lot more than the standard TRT dose to even feel any benefits consistently. I'm curious if anyone else has had this issue and if you found a way around it. 350 Test/350 Mast weekly along with 6.25mg aromasin daily = Amazing, but I can't just be on that all year.
 
Well, I think you may be used to how you felt when you were on bodybuilding doses. After you are on that long enough it becomes the new "norm" to you. I was that way.

After my heart attack I dropped everything and after 1 year went on TRT through my doc, 100 mg/wk. At first it felt just ok, but not good.Ive been on TRT now for about 10 years or so and now I feel good on that dose.

My point is that it is going to take awhile for your body to reach the point where you feel good with a normal test level. Your body is used to having much higher levels and reached some homeostasis with those levels. Your body will adjust and you will feel better on it. Be patient.
 
Well, I think you may be used to how you felt when you were on bodybuilding doses. After you are on that long enough it becomes the new "norm" to you. I was that way.

After my heart attack I dropped everything and after 1 year went on TRT through my doc, 100 mg/wk. At first it felt just ok, but not good.Ive been on TRT now for about 10 years or so and now I feel good on that dose.

My point is that it is going to take awhile for your body to reach the point where you feel good with a normal test level. Your body is used to having much higher levels and reached some homeostasis with those levels. Your body will adjust and you will feel better on it. Be patient.

Thanks Maldorf, it was actually you that inspired me to be a lot more cautious with how careless I was getting with tren and some other things.

Yeah, ideally I'd like to just be on 100mg. I mean 800ng/dl at my lowest point and free test at 21 is really awesome to me. It's a bit scary because I've been seeing someone and we're actually getting kind of serious but are taking things slow, and I know that on 100-200mg, I can pop three viagras and it's basically a piece of dead rubber down there. A 50mg shot of tren ace and a Letrozole tablet will get me going for a day, but that's really not the solution. I guess I have to have the dreaded "talk" with her.
 
Well, I think you may be used to how you felt when you were on bodybuilding doses. After you are on that long enough it becomes the new "norm" to you. I was that way.

After my heart attack I dropped everything and after 1 year went on TRT through my doc, 100 mg/wk. At first it felt just ok, but not good.Ive been on TRT now for about 10 years or so and now I feel good on that dose.

My point is that it is going to take awhile for your body to reach the point where you feel good with a normal test level. Your body is used to having much higher levels and reached some homeostasis with those levels. Your body will adjust and you will feel better on it. Be patient.

good insight .

I came off a pre contest cycle of 200 mgs deca, 150 mgs eq, 50 mgs masteron, and 100 mgs dtc...then last two weeks masteron at 200 mgs a week...

the day after the show I dropped ephedrine. A few days later dropped caffeine.

I was smoking cannabis every day two months before the competition and cut it two weeks before. Seemed to help calm me down.

transitioned after the show to 10 mgs masteron a day for a week or two...and now at 10 mgs test a day, every so often ill do a 10 mgs mast day..

and being able to eat more freely, not doing super hard cardio trying to get that last bit of fat off, taking my time do functional fitness, cardio......only gained a 3-4 lbs from when I weighed in..I like staying lean..... its a different feeling but a change is good. I wouldn't like the precontest feeling year round.

now smoking cannabis once a week, dont like it more than two days in a row bc I feel foggy the next day. Pre contest it didnt seem to do that maybe bc adrenaline from all that cardio and lifting twice a day many days, plus ephedrine, only 25 mgs..

The body changes. I definitely am liking 10 mgs test on most days...one day a week or so I may do 20 mgs test...I recommend trying it and seeing how you like for trt Op.
 
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The body changes. I definitely am liking 10 mgs test on most days...one day a week or so I may do 20 mgs test...I recommend trying it and seeing how you like for trt Op.

Tried it. Did nothing. I actually wish it had worked because I love the theory behind tiny ED injections, I just didn't get much from it although my e2 was a bit lower.

It doesn't make sense to me though, because for a good chunk of 2017 I was doing great on 200mg weekly and I actually just started toying with steroids around February of this year after about 10 years of being natural (I started doctor prescribed TRT four years ago after testing at low 300's). So this problem started a good year or so before I even started messing with steroids again, which makes me doubt that the six weeks of tren I did earlier this year and another 10 weeks of 350 test/350 Mast, did that much to screw up my receptors..... I'm sure it does, especially with tren, but that doesn't account for why I was feeling this way long before

I've taken HCG on and off, never been a huge fan as I felt nothing from it and it just kept me fertile which I actually don't want. So I've been on and off and always a pretty low dose. But one thing I do wonder is if, maybe some of my other downstream hormones are finally reaching a low enough point that I'm feeling it. I can't think of much else, I don't really think you should adapt to TRT.... in the sense of getting used to it, yes, but not to the point where you derive no benefit from it.
 
10mg/day Test C, E, or P
No need for the AI
Little Cialis pre workout
Little GH

Save your money, hair and joints;)
 
all yr issues are mental.
not test related. yr numbers are all good. so if not physical, the only other reason is mental.
 
less than 250mg a week i feel WAY too "normal" lol so i know what you mean.
i ended up bumping it to 125.g m/w/f so 375mg weekly for my summer "blast"
yeah thats a "blast" for me now:eek:
will drop back down to 250mg once weather gets cooler. just that 125mg more does make a diff imo
(my blood work is good on 250mg, have no idea about 375mg hence its my blast)
-F2S
 
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Thanks Maldorf, it was actually you that inspired me to be a lot more cautious with how careless I was getting with tren and some other things.



Yeah, ideally I'd like to just be on 100mg. I mean 800ng/dl at my lowest point and free test at 21 is really awesome to me. It's a bit scary because I've been seeing someone and we're actually getting kind of serious but are taking things slow, and I know that on 100-200mg, I can pop three viagras and it's basically a piece of dead rubber down there. A 50mg shot of tren ace and a Letrozole tablet will get me going for a day, but that's really not the solution. I guess I have to have the dreaded "talk" with her.
I don't understand what you're test levels have anything to do with your Ed. If you're test levels are low you just won't have desire to have sex but your dick can still get hard. If you have blocking that limits the flow to your penis then you get ED. If 3 viagra don't work it's definitely mental or your viagra is fake.

This is the second time this week I read of someone taking 3 viagra. That's just insane

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Are you on any blood pressure meds, like beta blockers? Beta blockers really mess up my erections, but I have to take it. Just wondering if maybe you are taking one. Bisoprolol that I take now is better for not causing much ED.
 
I don't understand what you're test levels have anything to do with your Ed. If you're test levels are low you just won't have desire to have sex but your dick can still get hard. If you have blocking that limits the flow to your penis then you get ED. If 3 viagra don't work it's definitely mental or your viagra is fake.

This is the second time this week I read of someone taking 3 viagra. That's just insane

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I agree with you on the 3 Viagra thing. What insanity could poses someone to take that much Viagra? If I took 3 Viagra and didn't die somehow, I would be bleeding from my eyes and nose, my sinuses would swell shut, my face would be bright red, likely purple, and of course my dick would likely resemble a steel pipe. My blood pressure would probably drop to 80/40 or lower, and my organs would likely begin shutting down.
 
This is the second time this week I read of someone taking 3 viagra. That's just insane

But more is usually better, right!?
 
I agree with you on the 3 Viagra thing. What insanity could poses someone to take that much Viagra? If I took 3 Viagra and didn't die somehow, I would be bleeding from my eyes and nose, my sinuses would swell shut, my face would be bright red, likely purple, and of course my dick would likely resemble a steel pipe. My blood pressure would probably drop to 80/40 or lower, and my organs would likely begin shutting down.

I tried that and the other big ED drug and they both screwed up my sinuses really bad, so bad that I stopped taking them. I felt like crap, and that was on the normal dose. Th drugs didn't really make me that much harder either.
 

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