Trt without doctor. Worth it? 26. Years old

[bfriedman1987]

I'm only 26 and debating on staying on trt after next cycle. Is it worth it? Don't see any reasons not to. Only thing that worries me is sperm count. I was wondering who self or prescribes trt and what doses and how often do you get blood work. What are some of cons? I know once I start trt there is no turning back.

 

[raw33man]

Started trt at 21, best decision of my life... if you are a juicer, do it !!!! Fuck PCT, I HATE PCTTTTTTT

 

[bfriedman1987]

Ya bro I know ill eventually b on it so why not start now keep all gains as be able to cut right after bulk cycle. Wat kind of test and what dose? U doing on ur own or with doctor?

 

[lucky1]

All depends on your natural test levels etc.. Probably not a wise decision but who am I to judge. Once you go on your on for life and your only 26.

 

[Medic08]

The smartest and ONLY question is.... Do you need to be on TRT? Lets says that you have a test level of 600 after running a few cycles w/ successful PCT. Do you really think TRUE TRT doses will get you much better than that?

 

[eaglecall]

If you're planning on staying in the fitness/steroid lifestyle, yes you're better off staying on trt. Pros never come off, and if you wanna keep a beautiful muscular shaped body, cycling and stopping will not take you there. Cycles and pct in my opinion are a mistake from the past. There's no such thing as juicing, stopping, recovering then juicing again. As soon as you stop steroids, the body will battle with everything it can to get rid of the extra abnormal muscle mass. Not to mention that your body with each cycle will recover less and less.

 

[rradam]

I've gone out of my way to always run short cycles, with short esters, with a very in depth pct each time, with plenty of time off after pct before another cycle. I feel... I guess proud... that after 10+ years now of putting my body all through this my bloodwork is normal and I feel fine during my off times. It has been a lot of work, and it probably would just be easier just to stay on, but personally it's just a choice I decided to make.

So I would at least give it a lot of thought, especially since you are thinking about self medicating. You can try things like gnrh or hcg periodically if you are considering children, or you can have some of the boys frozen. Even still I'm pretty sure trt won't sterilize you, and for some doesnt even lower count.

 

[Superheavy]

I am the same age and I ask myself this question all the time. Is it worth it to take all the different drugs Clomid,nolva,hcg and put your body through that.....just to get right back on? Idk but I need to fibre it out. My biggest concern is children, I plan on having kids and don't want to mess that up.

 

[nwiron]

I am the same age and I ask myself this question all the time. Is it worth it to take all the different drugs Clomid,nolva,hcg and put your body through that.....just to get right back on? Idk but I need to fibre it out. My biggest concern is children, I plan on having kids and don't want to mess that up.

It's not worth it for me. A lot of money and a pain in the ass. As you get older, physical appearance will take a back seat to health. It IS HARD to get dialed in to TRT where everything is normal and stays normal….sexual function, e2, etc all fluctuated for me. Started at 24…now I'm 27 and trying a painful restart. My opinion is a solid NO.

 

[ManoftheWorld]

couple options either run HEAVY cycle then schedule your dr appt about 1 mo of end of cycle, maybe even 6wks... that should do hell depending on drugs used make 8 wks just to ge safe, I "heards of others having successful attempts that day cuz there levels are so fucked... I think metaphorically I could say I woudnt be surprised if their lab levels even register, "inconclusive", cuz there raisin balls from no HRT or PCT

orrrrrrrrr

nothing bette thanwith a lab so you have a baseline, excsecially for the LONG haul.. and if even the day you want to go legit comes and only pay & 7.00 copy for his bottle of his watson cyc BTW this will take some time but believe within a year less depending appointment ability you'll either be cruising HRT either legit or no and have a clue how your body is responding.


stay stay clean for a cpl months, get some tripamorlin for max restrart potentional and even get some reloxifen also, havent cared to use anything years since switched to blast cruise but prior I didnt find any better for PCT that that stuff, NO BULLSHIT. once you feel" recovered(bext you can)" go to your dr and get your lab to see what your output is then even if says levels are fine have him dig deeper to make sure issues with over aromatization of DYT/E2 etc, just to be on safe side... the dr is obviously going to hold his opinion of whether or not you need TRT but you least know your baseline and any complications etc....

soif your in the 5-650/wk, 100mg.wk trt probably wouldnt do much and most play it safe dr wouldnt want to see you much higher since your about mid range so if shut you down but they keep you as stay at baseline and what a few years for HRT, now you shoudl know if you choose HRT peg it towards the 150mg/wk then may have you on zeus end of scale of 1k+ or so, only labs can prob tell if everything checks out you may never need closer to 200mg/wm... If dr is concerned, just say you cant handle stress as well as before when sex is involved, libido issuse, etc now he prob gonna thrown you either a script or two of viagra or cialis, which by all means dont bite the hand that feeds you LOL, but just say you want labs too since every commercial nowadays talks about low "T".

End of day, you know what you levels are, if hrt is worth it and how you going to need yo adjust to to be in opitimal range... yea fuck rhat middle of mark in range bullshit... alpha day baby... their lineage doesnt go middle of the rainge..



I say be as thorough as can let cuz my good bud went on HRT at 26/27 finally since his aromotase was through the roof

 

[Incognito1]

It's a tough one and the stakes are pretty high. Chances are long term HRT will make your sperm count significantly lower if not completely gone (whilst your on HRT that is)
You really need to weigh up what you want more. Have consistent test levels or be able to reproduce naturally. If you supplement already you would have most likely already damaged your sperm count and motility, so continued courses would put you at high risk of shutting down sperm count. Not always but it doesn't help.

Another option that you have is to freeze some sperm until the time that you need it, but then you will be looking at IVF. This way you can start HRT if your a candidate.
I'd be looking at getting a sperm test too. I never took large doses and courses were standard length and my count come back far too low to naturally conceive so I needed to do IVF. All is good now and I have some frozen just in case

Best of luck with your decisions buddy

 

[tr]

I am 28 years old, using aas since 21, was on and off untill 25, since then I do not coma off, 1/2 cruising on 100-200 test sometimes add in 100mg npp or tren there, and 1/2 year blasting with well...blast dosages. I am not going to come off of my choice

 

[raw33man]

If you wanna bodybuild, then either DO IT naturally or DON'T... UNLESS, you want to do it just for the summer which is okay, but you will be so addicted to this stuff that you will do it again sometime in fall or winter too )

if you want to take steroids then be committed, do steroids correctly... What is up with that coming off bullshit, getting depressed, losing weight, low libido, people asking what the fuck happens to you, 3 months big, 3 months small ?? In my goals, I'd never achieve the body that I want with that protocol...

With a good TRT dose, those things disappear

There are some downsides with that

1- Injecting once a week for the rest of your life ( I don't mind that )

2- not being able to travel for more than a few days ( not a big deal if you have a doc prescription )

 

[Mike28]

The smartest and ONLY question is.... Do you need to be on TRT? Lets says that you have a test level of 600 after running a few cycles w/ successful PCT. Do you really think TRUE TRT doses will get you much better than that?

Good advice

 

[Steve123]

OP, I have nothing more to really add that hasn't already been said. I would only say that at 26 you got a long road ahead. TRT is a life long comitement. If you don't need it, don't do it. It may seem like a good idea at 26 but try to bring your 46 year old self into the decision too.

It's completely your call and TRT does have some benefits. Also, I have no idea what your athletic situation is. Lots of variables. If there is not a compelling reason and if you don't need it, I would avoid it. Just my two cetns as somoene who is dealing with TRT now.

 

[nothuman]

The second I did my first injection, I knew it would be for life.

 

[lucky1]

Heres an idea, go to the doctors and see if they think its a good idea. Your 26 years old, if you want to have kids go freeze some sperm and explain to the mother of your soon to be kids that you need to go unfreeze some load cause you had to go on trt because you didn't want to go on pct.

 

[bfriedman1987]

Ya ill prob wait another 6 years. I wonder if all these serms are bad for us..