UK a primo free zone

[Mufasa123]

Do you think it got more painful because of some kind of degradation?

I don't know the science. I'd assume similar carbonic acid issue just showing slower and increasing over time but total conjecture here. Just not where I'm knowledgeable enough suffice to say none of us are alone in this so it's replicable and not a one off. That points to a real issue somewhere.

 

[qbkilla]

Does anyone use propionate? I read on a forum prop is ideal for keeping lean year round.. maybe dryer. I'll take .5 to 1cc max Ed solo.. no pip ever from prop.

 

[traininsane11]

Does anyone use propionate? I read on a forum prop is ideal for keeping lean year round.. maybe dryer. I'll take .5 to 1cc max Ed solo.. no pip ever from prop.

Pretty much OG bro science lol. Personally at 3x less volume I’d take enanthate all day but if you don’t mind it then you certainly won’t be any worse off

I’ve no idea how much of a good idea it is or if it would even work but I’ve been told by multiple high level coaches using prop/ace esters so larger quantities of oil alongside SEO’s in the best way to use SEO’s

 

[d4ve]

Pretty much OG bro science lol. Personally at 3x less volume I’d take enanthate all day but if you don’t mind it then you certainly won’t be any worse off

I’ve no idea how much of a good idea it is or if it would even work but I’ve been told by multiple high level coaches using prop/ace esters so larger quantities of oil alongside SEO’s in the best way to use SEO’s

Yea, for the most part I don't know why anyone would use short ester test in the offseason. I know Skip Hill and a couple of other coaches like a long / short mix...although I think I've even heard Skip saying he still only shoots the prop around 3x per week.

Maybe I'm lazy I just like pinning 3x per week, partly as a means to prevent myself from going completely off the rails with doses, lol. I'm such a creature of habit that the status quo of M/W/F pins locks me into, "I can't take more than what I can get from 9cc per week." And with Test and EQ at 300 mg/mL and Primo at 200, that's still a lot IMO.

I may try prop at the latter end of prep next time around, purely to make quick adjustments. Outside of that scenario...if anything I would veer towards more frequent injections but still with long esters to really smooth out blood levels, if e2 or DHT were problems.

 

[Zamun]

Does anyone use propionate? I read on a forum prop is ideal for keeping lean year round.. maybe dryer. I'll take .5 to 1cc max Ed solo.. no pip ever from prop.

I do. I get better numbers from prop, and libido is better.

 

[KingOfSushi]

Does anyone use propionate? I read on a forum prop is ideal for keeping lean year round.. maybe dryer. I'll take .5 to 1cc max Ed solo.. no pip ever from prop.

Dude you’ve been doing this for DECADES and you’re asking if prop will keep you leaner? What the fuck?

 

[rtrnofbesoge]

Yea, for the most part I don't know why anyone would use short ester test in the offseason. I know Skip Hill and a couple of other coaches like a long / short mix...although I think I've even heard Skip saying he still only shoots the prop around 3x per week.

Maybe I'm lazy I just like pinning 3x per week, partly as a means to prevent myself from going completely off the rails with doses, lol. I'm such a creature of habit that the status quo of M/W/F pins locks me into, "I can't take more than what I can get from 9cc per week." And with Test and EQ at 300 mg/mL and Primo at 200, that's still a lot IMO.

I may try prop at the latter end of prep next time around, purely to make quick adjustments. Outside of that scenario...if anything I would veer towards more frequent injections but still with long esters to really smooth out blood levels, if e2 or DHT were problems.

I like prop mainly for the quick adjustments, I feel like it gives a little more flexibility that way.

 

[rtrnofbesoge]

I like prop mainly for the quick adjustments, I feel like it gives a little more flexibility that way.

I'm not a super big fan of the extra pinning though

 

[Massive G]

I have been lucky I love enanthate and have taken a lot of amps over the years ICN galenkas in EO were the bomb as well as Iranian Test E amps that tested our at 333mg/ml and testovirons. The only bad enanthate I ever had was tornel test enanthate vet and quality vet enanthate. The tornel gave me itchy red welts and rapid heart beats every injection which led to the trash can. Even brewed my own 400 mg/ml in castor oil from raws and never had an issue.

 

[qbkilla]

I have been lucky I love enanthate and have taken a lot of amps over the years ICN galenkas in EO were the bomb as well as Iranian Test E amps that tested our at 333mg/ml and testovirons. The only bad enanthate I ever had was tornel test enanthate vet and quality vet enanthate. The tornel gave me itchy red welts and rapid heart beats every injection which led to the trash can. Even brewed my own 400 mg/ml in castor oil from raws and never had an issue.

I remembered those Iranians....my first cycle back in 02. The icn I think was the last sage buy before they started faking them too...dirt cheap from Serbia.

 

[Primoo]

Does anyone use propionate? I read on a forum prop is ideal for keeping lean year round.. maybe dryer. I'll take .5 to 1cc max Ed solo.. no pip ever from prop.

Lmfao I read all the non sense you post it’s crazy how your on this forum

 

[Primoo]

Dude you’ve been doing this for DECADES and you’re asking if prop will keep you leaner? What the fuck?

He’s been doing this for decades and doesn’t have a physique to show for it lmfao

 

[qbkilla]

Lmfao I read all the non sense you post it’s crazy how your on this forum

Retatrutide

ozempic to me is the best to loose weight

www.professionalmuscle.com

 

[alfresco]

Lmfao I read all the non sense you post it’s crazy how your on this forum

Be nice or be gone. Eyes are on you.

 

[madg]

He’s been doing this for decades and doesn’t have a physique to show for it lmfao

At least he is a real member not a troll

 

[Sectør]

Heads up guys. Looks like primo raws are being cut with EQ now

3 different blind tests from 2 different sources, all showing EQ in the finished product. So unless these 2 sources suddenly forgot how to brew and started cross contaminating their gear with exactly the same cross contaminant—the raws were cut

Credit to @Astro95 for doing two of the blind tests

 

[btails]

Heads up guys. Looks like primo raws are being cut with EQ now

3 different blind tests from 2 different sources, all showing EQ in the finished product. So unless these 2 sources suddenly forgot how to brew and started cross contaminating their gear with exactly the same cross contaminant—the raws were cut

Credit to @Astro95 for doing two of the blind tests

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Lol, I wouldn't consider that cut man.

That sounds like the were just lazy and use the same filter and media bottle.

 

[Sectør]

Lol, I wouldn't consider that cut man.

That sounds like the were just lazy and use the same filter and media bottle.

I mean two sources with no issues of cross contaminating prior suddenly cross contaminating?

Or a third source on meso that has cross contamination of test e/test cyp

I mean maybe it’s possibly three sources suddenly forgot how to brew? Or the raws are being mixed? Or I guess you could even make an argument that they cut the primo with eq to try to save money? Regardless it’s a bit odd there’s suddenly all this cross contaminated product

 

[Elvia1023]

Heads up guys. Looks like primo raws are being cut with EQ now

3 different blind tests from 2 different sources, all showing EQ in the finished product. So unless these 2 sources suddenly forgot how to brew and started cross contaminating their gear with exactly the same cross contaminant—the raws were cut

Credit to @Astro95 for doing two of the blind tests

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Very strange results. It could be the manufacturers being lazy and leaving residue bold. Although the fact it's 2 bold cyp and 1 bold und would suggest it's been purposely done. It makes no real sense though. If it was to do with cost it wouldn't be that ratio. 2 out of the 3 results are perfectly acceptable because they are over 90% primo. Even the 171mg I wouldn't consider a bad result as in scamming because it's over 85%. Definitely more a rushed job and being careless over scamming but still totally unacceptable because who wants any other steroid in their product that isn't supposed to be there.

 

[d4ve]

Heads up guys. Looks like primo raws are being cut with EQ now

3 different blind tests from 2 different sources, all showing EQ in the finished product. So unless these 2 sources suddenly forgot how to brew and started cross contaminating their gear with exactly the same cross contaminant—the raws were cut

Credit to @Astro95 for doing two of the blind tests

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NGL if I paid QSC prices for any of those, I wouldn't be mad.

$100+ per bottle...still not mad, maybe just annoyed these are the times we're in right now.