Universal health care is now a reality

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[kingpeon]

Hmm, not sure if this is good or bad.

 

[kid1dakota]

Hmm, not sure if this is good or bad.

I have mixed emotions also.I personally have great insurance and am happy with my care,but many need things to change.
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[Tom]

Bad

i'll bet that everybody that's on hrt and getting insurance to cover it can say goodbye to it. you could show up at an er holding your severed left arm in your right hand and be told it would be to expensive to try to re-attach it and you'll just have to learn to deal with a stump. i see no good coming from this at all......

 

[Johnny Smiles]

Canada has "universal healthcare" but you better be prepared to WAIT a loooooooong time before seeing a doctor. in fact by the time you see one for a major health concern it might be too late. atleast thats what i have heard from friends in Canada...
i don't know what the answer is... but we have yet to have found it. healthcare is f%$#ed up in the U.S. -JS

 

[Banned]

i'll bet that everybody that's on hrt and getting insurance to cover it can say goodbye to it. you could show up at an er holding your severed left arm in your right hand and be told it would be to expensive to try to re-attach it and you'll just have to learn to deal with a stump. i see no good coming from this at all......

I'm right there with ya brother!

 

[kingpeon]

^ That's what I was thinking. The government making another power play against the people and disguising it as a great idea. We may be screwed.

 

[DrivingForward]

Estimated to cost over 1 trillion dollars for the first ten years...

The amazing catch is... we only get healthcare for 6 of those 10 years.

We will be taxed for the first 4 years, and not recieve benefits until year # 5...


So 1 trillion for 6 years of healthcare? Practically robbery.

 

[MikeRoss]

shit..

Not a good thing

 

[hghanadrol1]

I might change my major now since this passed...I was going to school to become a pediatric cardiothoracic surgeon but this will kill the doctor's income and malpractice is going to be a b^tch to deal with now..

 

[MikeRoss]

I might change my major now since this passed...I was going to school to become a pediatric cardiothoracic surgeon but this will kill the doctor's income and malpractice is going to be a b^tch to deal with now..

In Canada and England, health care workers are considered employees of the government rather than private health care workers. This means that each surgeon, family practitioner and nurse is paid through the government, and their salaries are regulated by the government. This means that the competition for patients that spurs health care workers to become better at their occupations and specialties is gone. This could mean a reduction of those willing to go into the medical profession overall. You also won't be able to choose the best doctor simply by looking at their successes and patient base.

 

[j4ever]

Estimated to cost over 1 trillion dollars for the first ten years...

The amazing catch is... we only get healthcare for 6 of those 10 years.

We will be taxed for the first 4 years, and not recieve benefits until year # 5...


So 1 trillion for 6 years of healthcare? Practically robbery.

Do you think that the cost estimate will hold true? I don't! I say it will be much more!!!!

 

[scrapper13]

nothing is going to change and a boatload of money will be wasted. obama just dug his own grave. i cant wait to hear liberals bitch in 3 years when there is a republican president and republican dominated senate and house....for all you people who voted for obama you got what you asked for.

 

[Banned]

Do you think that the cost estimate will hold true? I don't! I say it will be much more!!!!

I believe that has always been the case. The initial funding reports for any government program tend to be on the conservative side.

 

[kid1dakota]

I might change my major now since this passed...I was going to school to become a pediatric cardiothoracic surgeon but this will kill the doctor's income and malpractice is going to be a b^tch to deal with now..

Your correct that the specialty surgeon money will not be like it is now.But malpractice will no longer be a concern, as malpractice will be the governments responsibilty.

Doctors and surgeons even under universal healthcare make a better living than average. But not the 2 million a year like my buddy jonathon makes right now as an interventional radiologist.

 

[HUGEME]

This is horrible... Now if you cut yourself and need stitches you might as well get some shoe string and a needle sewing needle and have at it yourself.. It'll be the exact same... Dumb ass president..

 

[halflife]

Estimated to cost over 1 trillion dollars for the first ten years...

The amazing catch is... we only get healthcare for 6 of those 10 years.

We will be taxed for the first 4 years, and not recieve benefits until year # 5...


So 1 trillion for 6 years of healthcare? Practically robbery.

Hehe... check your numbers. Look at what the Congressional Budget Office has said. Trillion over a decade? yes, but compared to what we would be paying with the old system - save 138$ billion the first decade, 1.2$ the next.

 

[j4ever]

well you should just go ahead and at least double that trillion

 

[Ehren]

And down we go.

I've lived in Europe for off and on for ten years in different countries. The US (I'm a US citizen) just doesnt know how to do this. They've created a massive beaurocracy that'll kill any kind of efficiency or personal care as they still hope to make it profitable and not piss off the Pharma companies.

Universal healthcare is a loss in every country that has it, that's just how it works.

The docs here are top notch here but don't make shit. Somehow, there's no beaurocracy. Beaurocracy is what's gonna kill Health care in the US, IMO.

As a result of low pay, there are fewer and fewer docs in public practice here. The good ones go into private practice doing boob jobs, dental work and lipo.

And TRT? Ha! Forget it! My doc here smiled when I mentioned it and said, "Yes, this is a popular fad in the US, no?"

 

[kid1dakota]

And TRT? Ha! Forget it! My doc here smiled when I mentioned it and said, "Yes, this is a popular fad in the US, no?"

Your Doc referred to hypogonadism and its treatment a fad?

The people cut off will be those in the low normal range that want to be in the upper normal to high range.If you are truly hypo levels this is no fad,but a true medical condition.

There will still be rejuvenation clinics/anti-aging clinics for those that arent truly hypogonadel.But the days of being in normal range and getting scripts covered by insurance will probably come to an end.