Using Yohimbine HCL on a Bulk

[DecaForDessert]

So had kind of an interesting idea about using yohimbine on a bulk. I keep fasted cardio in the mix year-round to keep blood pressure and heart rate down, and have always tolerated Yohimbine very well (20+ mg).

Since it is an alpha 2 receptor antagonist (which aids target fat loss in the stomach and lower back), would incorporating it on a bulk inhibit some portion of fat gain in those stubborn areas?

It would be awesome to be able to stay leaner in the midsection so I don't feel like a bloated walrus at the end of every bulk (I like to end them at around 16% bodyfat).

From my understanding, its main action is blocking these receptors, and secondarily, it promotes lipolysis. So if the receptors are being blocked, the body should be slightly deterred from depositing fat in these areas, no?

Gearing up to end a cut, then maintain, and then do a slow bulk (I am thinking .5 pounds a week on 250mg test), so I will be giving this a shot either way, but I thought it would be fun to see some discussion about it.

 

[graybass]

My understanding has always been any kind of stimulant will inhibit muscle gaining (size) Old school guys wouldn't even do any cardio for 8-12 weeks while bulking. Personally, I always continue with a low amount of cardio while bulking. Everyone is different, keep us posted.

 

[DecaForDessert]

My understanding has always been any kind of stimulant will inhibit muscle gaining (size) Old school guys wouldn't even do any cardio for 8-12 weeks while bulking. Personally, I always continue with a low amount of cardio while bulking. Everyone is different, keep us posted.

I feel like all the pre-workouts that people use with a large amount of caffeine would be dropped if they were inhibiting muscle gain? Im on adderall for my adhd lol so im stuck with them either way.

After I incorporated cardio I have put on much more quality size. Allows me to run the DC training protocol more effectively (not running out of aerobic capability on all my rest pause sets), and my bloodwork has gotten much better. I agree, everyone is different, but for me it has a huge benefit.

Anyways, yeah, I am super interested to run this experiment and see what happens. The theory with yohimbine is the longer you run it, the better it works so I will incorporate a saturation phase in my maintenance period before transferring to a bulk.

 

[MackCoach]

A lot of “fun”.

Dude you need to get out more.

If you are that concerned then maybe just do a little more cardio.

You said 1/2 pound gain per week?

That’s called a lean gainer NOT a sloppy-ass Doritos eating couch potato bulk.

Save the yohimbe for your cutter.

Mack

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[AllOkJumpmaster]

Id save it for the next cut, you can mitigate fat gain on a bulk in many other ways. I wouldn't kill the cardio completely, but the Y, yes.

 

[DecaForDessert]

A lot of “fun”.

Dude you need to get out more.

If you are that concerned then maybe just do a little more cardio.

You said 1/2 pound gain per week?

That’s called a lean gainer NOT a sloppy-ass Doritos eating couch potato bulk.

Save the yohimbe for your cutter.

Mack

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I get out plenty, but I appreciate your concern. I enjoy discussing theories and topics that I find interest in. If the concept bothers you, I am unsure if a forum is the correct hangout for you.

I am not "concerned", it was simply a question of whether Yohimbine can inhibit fat gain in the stomach area while being in a caloric surplus, allowing an individual to bulk with a higher caloric surplus or to bulk for a longer period of time before losing abdominal definition. Simply a tool in the toolbox.

I have always gained weight at an approximate rate of 1-1.4 pounds a week, which has caused too much fat gain. I have never tried a .5 a week weight gain rate, but it is a variable being changed this go around.

 

[DecaForDessert]

Id save it for the next cut, you can mitigate fat gain on a bulk in many other ways. I wouldn't kill the cardio completely, but the Y, yes.

Why out of curiosity? I don't believe you ever gain a tolerance to it.

 

[KingOfSushi]

I’ve heard this concept discussed before, and yes thinking logically it would work. I don’t think most folks wanna be on Yohimbine year round, though.

 

[DecaForDessert]

I’ve heard this concept discussed before, and yes thinking logically it would work. I don’t think most folks wanna be on Yohimbine year round, though.

I too remember it being discussed before, but I could not dig up anything. Most individuals have a pretty strong reaction to it, but I feel totally fine running 25mg with a cup of black coffee in the morning.

I agree though, as always, if something feels like a bigger burden than aid, one should remove it from their protocol.

 

[b-boy]

I too remember it being discussed before, but I could not dig up anything. Most individuals have a pretty strong reaction to it, but I feel totally fine running 25mg with a cup of black coffee in the morning.

I agree though, as always, if something feels like a bigger burden than aid, one should remove it from their protocol.

As long as it doesn't fuck with your appetite or training in a negative way then GO FOR IT, and let us know the results.

 

[DecaForDessert]

As long as it doesn't fuck with your appetite or training in a negative way then GO FOR IT, and let us know the results.

10-4, I will try keeping variables very strict to remove outside influence. Excited to see the results (even if there aren't any, at least it answers my question/theory).

 

[MackCoach]

@DecaForDessert hey bro it’s a little tongue in cheek humor
Relax a little if you gonna hang in the open forum it’s not all rose petals and honey …. You skin gotta be a little thicker and you got to recognize a fun poke in the ribs when one comes at you

Appreciate you telling me that maybe a forum is “not for me”.

I have over 15,000 forum posts collectively and I’ve been a source Rep for 12+ years …. But you would not know that newbie (hint, friendly poke in the ribs there bro)

Good luck to you

Mack

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[MackCoach]

10-4, I will try keeping variables very strict to remove outside influence. Excited to see the results (even if there aren't any, at least it answers my question/theory).

I’d personally run a t4/t3 combo

And maybe 40 mcg Clen

Clen is anti catabolic AND sheds subq water ….. I could add more brotato chip but that’s enough bread nuggets for your lower back at the moment (again a humorous fun friendly poke in the ribs)

 

[DecaForDessert]

@DecaForDessert hey bro it’s a little tongue in cheek humor
Relax a little if you gonna hang in the open forum it’s not all rose petals and honey …. You skin gotta be a little thicker and you got to recognize a fun poke in the ribs when one comes at you

Appreciate you telling me that maybe a forum is “not for me”.

I have over 15,000 forum posts collectively and I’ve been a source Rep for 12+ years …. But you would not know that newbie (hint, friendly poke in the ribs there bro)

Good luck to you

Mack

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Apologies brother, I'm notoriously bad at getting humor over text

 

[MackCoach]

Apologies brother, I'm notoriously bad at getting humor over text

Welcome. All good buddy.

Mack

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[DecaForDessert]

I’d personally run a t4/t3 combo

And maybe 40 mcg Clen

Clen is anti catabolic AND sheds subq water ….. I could add more brotato chip but that’s enough bread nuggets for your lower back at the moment (again a humorous fun friendly poke in the ribs)

I have tried clen in the past and have an awful tolerance for it, unfortunately (even at 20mcg). T4/T3 combo is a great idea and has worked well in the past for me, I have come to the realization that I am not big enough to be running all of the fun additives and higher doses of anabolics that I have in the past so I mainly stick to cardio, l carnitine, yohimbine, 300mg test and maybe 100mg EQ with a whole lot of clean food. @DOGGCRAPP made me realize how I shouldn't be playing with all that and actually start eating like a bodybuilder before I use all the other fun shit (currently my biggest I ever have been after getting my shit together and not being a bro about my shitty diet).

Apologies for the side tracking, but that was an explanation for why I am very curious about Yohimbine and trying to utilize it in a "new" way if you will.

Thank you for taking the time to comment, and sorry about my tense prior message lol

 

[3BILLS]

10-4, I will try keeping variables very strict to remove outside influence. Excited to see the results (even if there aren't any, at least it answers my question/theory).

If you were very strict you wouldn't even be contemplating using yohimbine to bulk

 

[DecaForDessert]

If you were very strict you wouldn't even be contemplating using yohimbine to bulk

Touche, but if it slightly prevents me from getting fatter if I slip up a little or lets me bulk longer, that would be pretty cool. Honestly, I am just curious if my theory has some possible value to it.

On top of that, it would be a pretty sick recomp tool if you can stay at maintenance and lose body fat

 

[b-boy]

Touche, but if it slightly prevents me from getting fatter if I slip up a little or lets me bulk longer, that would be pretty cool. Honestly, I am just curious if my theory has some possible value to it.

On top of that, it would be a pretty sick recomp tool if you can stay at maintenance and lose body fat

Yohimbe's fat burning effect is very modest so don't expect too much or your going to be highly disappointed. For me this is the job for a good base dose of GH and Synthetine (inj. L-carnitine).
This is what I personally do.

 

[Flocci]

If it didnt make me feel like garbage for 6 hours and stress my CNS so bad i'd give it a shot but the fatigue that it accumulates is just not worth it imo.

But if you tolerate it, have at it and report back what your results are.


Has anyone here ran rauwolscine and yohimbine hcl? im wondering if rauwolscine is more tolerable in terms of the side effects like anxiety, jitters, fatigue, brainfog and tense muscles, jaw clenching etc?


What about a stack like: 200-300mg caffeine, 2-4mg nicotine, 1-2mg albuterol, 5-20mg methylene blue, 500mg carnitine and maybe 250-500mcg slu-pp-332 before fasted cardio in the morning? Adding yohimbine if you can tolerate it.