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USP labs has a new product.

Just to put this into perspective, I would rate Muscletech a notch higher on the integrity scale than these clowns. USP has a couple of products that are okay. I know a lot of people who swear by the SuperCissus. As for the other stuff...it's all fluff. Then again, every other company out there is pretty much the same.

lol now i know your full of shit lol j/k
 
I'm 31 and old enough to know it much smarter to read then give input before the facts or evidence are present. :D Hell I got my opinions on boladrol and follistatin, but I won't completely dismiss the effectiveness of them until we see more user results here at pm. Until then I've save my cash. My point is, its up to the consumer to decided if a product if worth using or not, not for us to say no you can or can't. If the product ends up being shit then it wont take long for the word to get out. Reputation is what its all about and so far I have to praise usp labs. They put out two products I really like--jack3d and oxyelite.

And MMM, I never said I was going to buy the product, nor did I promote it here. If I need a pump that bad I'll just take some viagra before a workout. :D



How old are you, bro? You obviously are still hopeful that some miracle supplement will come out and snatch your physique from the jaws of mediocrity. I'm going to tell you straight up, as a friend...it just aint gonna happen.

Companies like this use tried and true marketing strategies all formulated to separate you from your hard earned cash. Some people like to live in fairyland, but I am absolutely telling you the truth. Give this scenario some thought: You're walking through the mall, and two of those Armenian guys are working one of those kiosks. You know the ones I'm talking about. They always say: "can I ask you a question"? Anyway, one of them gets your attention, and you start talking to the two guys. The first guy then tries to sell you $5 worth of crap in a can for $40. In the midst of contemplating the purchase, you turn to the other guy and ask him if the stuff is worth $40, and he says: "I wouldn't waste my money on that crap, if I were you". Which guy are you going to believe?

Just to put this into perspective, I would rate Muscletech a notch higher on the integrity scale than these clowns. USP has a couple of products that are okay. I know a lot of people who swear by the SuperCissus. As for the other stuff...it's all fluff. Then again, every other company out there is pretty much the same.
 
I'm 31 and old enough to know it much smarter to read then give input before the facts or evidence are present. :D Hell I got my opinions on boladrol and follistatin, but I won't completely dismiss the effectiveness of them until we see more user results here at pm. Until then I've save my cash. My point is, its up to the consumer to decided if a product if worth using or not, not for us to say no you can or can't. If the product ends up being shit then it wont take long for the word to get out. Reputation is what its all about and so far I have to praise usp labs. They put out two products I really like--jack3d and oxyelite.

And MMM, I never said I was going to buy the product, nor did I promote it here. If I need a pump that bad I'll just take some viagra before a workout. :D

well said!!
 
lol now i know your full of shit lol j/k

Yea thats a bold stmt!! :)

Got to give muscletech's sell/marketing team LOTS of credit. Getting someone to buy a can sugar and creatine mono for $50+ or a can whey concentrate and creatine mono for $50+ is impressive. Crazy profit margin, let see $5 of ingredients and then up sell it for 10x more then it cost to make. Sounds like a really honest consumer friendly company. :rolleyes:
 
ohh i coudlnt agree more because when i was young and dumb like 16 ish i saw the adds for muscletech and they sucked me right in lol those bastards lol
 
i dunno why anyone would give any of these products so much as a second glance after going the :star-:ars route....
 
Put some thought into what I said.


Is it crap? no.

Why is it not crap?
It is not crap because it works. Every product they have DOES work... maybe not what you would hope for... but it does work. Therefore, it is not crap.

Is it over priced?
with out a doubt. no questions asked.


Would you buy it "if" they cut the price 70%?
yup.

Why would I buy it "if" they cut the price 70&?
BECAUSE IT WORKS.


Think before you post. The products are not crap... yes they are over price; NOT CRAP.


Crap smells.... does nothing for you and makes a mess. :rolleyes:

your never going to get it are you?!?!? just back from banned and running your mouth again:naughty:

"Crap smells.... does nothing for you and makes a mess" just like your posts which should be over at :

Getbig.com: American Bodybuilding, Fitness and Figure
 
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Agreed

It's all crap. Even Jack3d. It's just 1,3 Dimeth, Caffefine and some creatine. You could make it from TP by itself. Overdose each. Go 300 Caffefine, 75mg Dimeth, and 3g Creatine...and it's all there.

They just hype, hype, and hype. It's all overpriced crap. I think Prime is the water chestnut product, I'm not to sure...that or PowerFULL. They either have overpriced products or shit products, or both.


"It's all crap"...99.99%
 
as far as arginine goes, if cialis was not available arginine would be my fave supp.
 
well all I have to say is that I used a few bottles of there prime when I was on PCT and off cycle and I deff think it works to a certain extent. I deff got stronger while using it. then I stopped using it cuz it's kinda expensive and I really noticed I wasn't on it anymore, so just my 2 cents bro

I tried prime several times and wasted a lot of money too. The strong feeling was the gear still in your system during pct and it happened to coincidentally go away the same time you stopped using prime

having said that, their OxyElite Pro semmed incredible for fat burning. Had I not used it with the same diet, I have no idea what kind of results I would have had though
 
USP has some really low-brow marketing and bizarre products (Pink Magic ... to be fair I haven't tried it). Their L-dopa / mucuna product does not even make the l-dopa concentration clear. I must admit that Jack3d is a good pwo. Given the small doses, I'm puzzled by the good pump enhancement.

I just can't support this company which treats bb'ers as if we were all a bunch of high-school kids.
 
USP has some really low-brow marketing and bizarre products (Pink Magic ... to be fair I haven't tried it). Their L-dopa / mucuna product does not even make the l-dopa concentration clear. I must admit that Jack3d is a good pwo. Given the small doses, I'm puzzled by the good pump enhancement.

I just can't support this company which treats bb'ers as if we were all a bunch of high-school kids.

It treats the average joe that believes change happens instantly like what they are. Can't hate their gameplan, but you can choose to stay away. I don't "hate" what they do, I just think their shit is shit(literally) and really pricey.

I'm too wary and I guess experienced to step into that stuff again. I got broke buying that MuscleTech stuff when I first started. You live and you learn.

Alex just has me getting the real dry basics, something I insisted on before working with anyone. More money for professional help,less money on BS supps.
 
I tried prime several times and wasted a lot of money too. The strong feeling was the gear still in your system during pct and it happened to coincidentally go away the same time you stopped using prime

having said that, their OxyElite Pro semmed incredible for fat burning. Had I not used it with the same diet, I have no idea what kind of results I would have had though

Agreed on the OxyElite pro! Recreate is good stuff as well
 
I used to be a product educated for the company on anabolic minds, ya they hype the products but everyone i used really did work. No, no supplement is magical it's just meant to "supplement" your already well layed out training and diet program. I've used powerfull, super cissus, cialabol, recreate, anabolic pump, p-slin,oxy elite pro and all worked well, i've heard really mixed things about pink magic and prime though :S
 
How long does it take people to figure out that Arginine does absolutely nothing for pump, and vasodilation. The science doesn't lie...marketing does.

I don't care what kind of Arginine it is either.

Exactly. The whole "pump" category is a scam. The only thing that works is the stimulants in the product.
 

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