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Veins in biceps disappeared
Maxintense
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Veins in biceps disappeared.
I am now cutting up for a contest and have started syntherol in my bic's/tri's for almost 3 weeks. I've noticed that the large vein in the bicep has disppeared in both arms. Although my arms have gotten bigger, but veins have gone. Now that I've cut down a lot with veins showing everywhere except my biceps. WTF!!! I hope the oil doesn't flow to the surface and form a layer of fat covering my veins.
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05-07-2002 09:08 PM
peewee
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I had the same thing happen!! After I stopped using SEO's in my bi's, the vein started showing up more. I think it gets bigger after you stop. Its like the SEO stretches it out and then it takes time to adapt and get bigger.
Have you tried AMP or ATP? They will help bring out vascularity too.
I'd like to know how the pro's get so vascular while using SEOs.
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05-07-2002 09:15 PM
Bishop
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I was using it in my calves (which are normally very lean), after about 2 weeks (i was dieting during this time also) no matter how pumped they got I could not see ANY veins. I think it is due to swelling/inflamation of the area. My ankles also got very puffy, but all these symptoms went away when I stopped using it.
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05-07-2002 09:26 PM
Big A
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That's why you stop the SEO 1 week out from the show. Usually, the loss of vascularity happens when there is too much trauma in the are and as such inflamation occurs. Deeper injections usually rectify this.
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05-07-2002 10:49 PM
BALDNAZI
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thats the only problem
I love synth but it did blur my veins.Now that I have not used it,my bi's are getting back their shape and the vascularity.They are bigger and rounder with better peak,so although the 20 in number is now 19 1/2.I still say its a success,I love the new look.
"Der Sieg Wird Unser Sein"
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05-08-2002 01:23 AM
Jethro Tull
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GOOD INFO IN THAT THREAD FELLAS.......
THANKS GUYS.
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05-08-2002 01:32 AM
Maxintense
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I took 1 week off from syntherol and still no veins. My purpose of doing SEO is to prepare for a contest and if I have to stop using it 2week or 3 weeks then I might as well not use it in the first place. I want my veins back...
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05-09-2002 09:29 PM
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How deep are the shots that you are doing? Also, if you are really lean, the veins will show always, unless you are on very low carbs.
I showed this photo before. It was taken 1 week out from a show, with Syntherol being used continously for several months prior, all the way to the day before this shot was taken.
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05-09-2002 10:04 PM
BALDNAZI
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1 1/2 inch pins
For the most part I used 23g 1in pins,but I did use 23g 1 1/2 a couple times and deep injected.I still had a problem sometimes of oil running back out.For some reason the deeper shots made no difference,the veins did not come back for a few weeks after. I love the stuff,but since summer is here Im a little reluctant to use it,big arms with vascularity are the look and too much site oil blurs it.Is there a better way????
"Der Sieg Wird Unser Sein"
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05-09-2002 11:22 PM
Big A
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Generaly, if a person is very lean and not carb depleting, syntherol will not affect the vascularity, if anything it will enhance it. All guys that I train for comps, myself included, the leaner they are (4%, etc) the more the veins stick out with Syntherol. The picture above is a perfect example. But they all stop one week out to reduce any small amount of inflamation occured.
However, another factor can be too much trauma at the site, so HUGE inflamation. The big trauma is from too many shots in one small area. The guys I train, the shoot side ways into the muscle, etc. Not just from the top - they try to go into the muscle in as many different ways as possible.
Maxintense
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Registered: Feb 2002
Location:
Posts: 36
Veins in biceps disappeared.
I am now cutting up for a contest and have started syntherol in my bic's/tri's for almost 3 weeks. I've noticed that the large vein in the bicep has disppeared in both arms. Although my arms have gotten bigger, but veins have gone. Now that I've cut down a lot with veins showing everywhere except my biceps. WTF!!! I hope the oil doesn't flow to the surface and form a layer of fat covering my veins.
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05-07-2002 09:08 PM
peewee
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I had the same thing happen!! After I stopped using SEO's in my bi's, the vein started showing up more. I think it gets bigger after you stop. Its like the SEO stretches it out and then it takes time to adapt and get bigger.
Have you tried AMP or ATP? They will help bring out vascularity too.
I'd like to know how the pro's get so vascular while using SEOs.
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05-07-2002 09:15 PM
Bishop
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I was using it in my calves (which are normally very lean), after about 2 weeks (i was dieting during this time also) no matter how pumped they got I could not see ANY veins. I think it is due to swelling/inflamation of the area. My ankles also got very puffy, but all these symptoms went away when I stopped using it.
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05-07-2002 09:26 PM
Big A
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That's why you stop the SEO 1 week out from the show. Usually, the loss of vascularity happens when there is too much trauma in the are and as such inflamation occurs. Deeper injections usually rectify this.
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05-07-2002 10:49 PM
BALDNAZI
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Registered: Jan 2002
Location: Brooklyn NY
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thats the only problem
I love synth but it did blur my veins.Now that I have not used it,my bi's are getting back their shape and the vascularity.They are bigger and rounder with better peak,so although the 20 in number is now 19 1/2.I still say its a success,I love the new look.
"Der Sieg Wird Unser Sein"
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05-08-2002 01:23 AM
Jethro Tull
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Registered: Jan 2002
Location: Montana
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GOOD INFO IN THAT THREAD FELLAS.......
THANKS GUYS.
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05-08-2002 01:32 AM
Maxintense
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I took 1 week off from syntherol and still no veins. My purpose of doing SEO is to prepare for a contest and if I have to stop using it 2week or 3 weeks then I might as well not use it in the first place. I want my veins back...
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05-09-2002 09:29 PM
Big A
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How deep are the shots that you are doing? Also, if you are really lean, the veins will show always, unless you are on very low carbs.
I showed this photo before. It was taken 1 week out from a show, with Syntherol being used continously for several months prior, all the way to the day before this shot was taken.
Big A has attached this image:
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05-09-2002 10:04 PM
BALDNAZI
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Registered: Jan 2002
Location: Brooklyn NY
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1 1/2 inch pins
For the most part I used 23g 1in pins,but I did use 23g 1 1/2 a couple times and deep injected.I still had a problem sometimes of oil running back out.For some reason the deeper shots made no difference,the veins did not come back for a few weeks after. I love the stuff,but since summer is here Im a little reluctant to use it,big arms with vascularity are the look and too much site oil blurs it.Is there a better way????
"Der Sieg Wird Unser Sein"
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05-09-2002 11:22 PM
Big A
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Registered: Oct 2001
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Posts: 425
Generaly, if a person is very lean and not carb depleting, syntherol will not affect the vascularity, if anything it will enhance it. All guys that I train for comps, myself included, the leaner they are (4%, etc) the more the veins stick out with Syntherol. The picture above is a perfect example. But they all stop one week out to reduce any small amount of inflamation occured.
However, another factor can be too much trauma at the site, so HUGE inflamation. The big trauma is from too many shots in one small area. The guys I train, the shoot side ways into the muscle, etc. Not just from the top - they try to go into the muscle in as many different ways as possible.
