Very bad Psoriasis

[Rex Feral]

I agree with LK3.

Also on a side note, since we don't have a competitive even field for medicine, most people don't know this. A lot of psoriasis cases are caused by GLUTEN. Yes, Gluten. Laugh all you want, I know if you listen to your MD he will tell you the gluten problem is a myth, but yes, some people get this bizarre skin reaction from gluten poisoning. No, it doesnt show since birth, it can flare up anytime in life. For example a lot of kids who have asthma when young and then the condition seems to fade away over time, is gluten reaction. The body learn to live with it but is being destroyed from the inside anyways. Kids who have red cheeks, gluten reaction. Nasal oversensitivity, gluten reaction.

There is no reason why a condition like Psoriasis is there on a patient "just because" There is a cause for it. If there is a cause, there is a cure. Unless it can be proven to be some abnormal unknown auto immune disorder which by the way, it has a cure too and in many cases is again, Gluten.

Before trying drugs that don't cure, I suggest trying normal more rational methods like for example going gluten free for at least 90 days and asses results. Of course if nothing works, the last resort is a drug to manage the symptoms and improve the quality of life of the patient. But again, drugs must be the very last resort. There is no reason nor logic to use drugs before giving the body's own natural abilities to heal itself a chance.

Show me some evdience of your claims or quit posting stupid shit like this. Complete fool.

Rex.

 

[jasong]

I agree with LK3.

Also on a side note, since we don't have a competitive even field for medicine, most people don't know this. A lot of psoriasis cases are caused by GLUTEN. Yes, Gluten. Laugh all you want, I know if you listen to your MD he will tell you the gluten problem is a myth, but yes, some people get this bizarre skin reaction from gluten poisoning. No, it doesnt show since birth, it can flare up anytime in life. For example a lot of kids who have asthma when young and then the condition seems to fade away over time, is gluten reaction. The body learn to live with it but is being destroyed from the inside anyways. Kids who have red cheeks, gluten reaction. Nasal oversensitivity, gluten reaction.

There is no reason why a condition like Psoriasis is there on a patient "just because" There is a cause for it. If there is a cause, there is a cure. Unless it can be proven to be some abnormal unknown auto immune disorder which by the way, it has a cure too and in many cases is again, Gluten.

Before trying drugs that don't cure, I suggest trying normal more rational methods like for example going gluten free for at least 90 days and asses results. Of course if nothing works, the last resort is a drug to manage the symptoms and improve the quality of life of the patient. But again, drugs must be the very last resort. There is no reason nor logic to use drugs before giving the body's own natural abilities to heal itself a chance.

My wife tried gluten free. It didn't do anything for her psoriasis. She also has rheumatoid arthritis that has developed from this. I guess that's what her medicine transfusion was for primarily. She's had the same dermatologist since she was a kid so lots of trial and error and medicine changes.

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[Arko.]

Get all wheat, corn, and soy out of your diet... And any other foods that are full of glyphosate or other pesticides and herbicides.
This will have a huge impact.
Also add in the marijuana cream mentioned above.

 

[Arko.]

My wife tried gluten free. It didn't do anything for her psoriasis. She also has rheumatoid arthritis that has developed from this. I guess that's what her medicine transfusion was for primarily. She's had the same dermatologist since she was a kid so lots of trial and error and medicine changes.

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I'm a firm believer that gluten intolerance is actually pesticide intolerance.
Glyphosate is one of many pesticides sprayed all over wheat products.. glyphosate itself sprayed shortly before harvest increases yield...
Bottom line most cereals, pasta, oats, and about 100 other foods are full of this shit...

 

[eaglecall]

Show me some evdience of your claims or quit posting stupid shit like this. Complete fool.

Rex.

No.
If you want evidence that is your own homework that requires the minimum effort and IQ. If you're interested in your health, it is YOUR interest to seek information. It doesnt change a bit in my life if you "believe" or not. Its not my problem, it doesnt affect me. Good luck taking your pills.

 

[BurgerKing13]

Tried Everything ...

I have tried everything. Humira, Enbrel currently on Consentyx and that seems to work the best for me.

 

[LK3]

What do you mean by "BIG serotonin" component? I have certain topical prescription ointments that reduce the severity but it doesn't actually make any patch actually go away....

I HAVE found hgh/igf as well as eating tons of food in the off-season seems to exacerbate the issue.. but as of right now that's not something I'm willing to stop

well bro, so far everyone here is missing the entire point.

while psoriassis is manifested as skin plaques the problem is not the skin!!!

the problem is the immune system!

the gluten thing is true for some but not all, again this is a very big complex problem usually takes years to develop. not in all cases but look at the ones here.

innfamation is the issue, on a systemic level. THAT is what you must deal with. anything else is a bandaid.

i went the "normal" route at first... 20 years ago. lol

THIS is a huge part of why i know the shit i know... i needed to solve my own problems as "medicine" sure as fuck didnt.

serotonin is a neruo transmitter, yes but most serotonin activity is in the gi and it is very important when looking at autoimmune and innflamation.

why? idk lol

just my experience.

again we do not have real answers for any of this, if we did we would not have the problem.

for a lot of ppl you can deal with it dealing with just skin, for me i could not, the creams in the end made the condition worse.

someone else mentioned arthritis...
same shit.
actually psoriassis does also manifest as joint pain/ innflamation so it may actually be psoriatic arthritis. again i deal with this...

the answer is again systemic inflamation...

getnbigger mentioned glut... yes it can help but again it is just a small part of a very complex issue... why does it work? in short it helps the immune system! lol

:welcome:

 

[jpkoepse]

Just been browsing a bunch of Psoriasis boards... Dimethyl Fumarate? Or Fumaderm? Seems like one of the most widely accepted treatments esp in other countries... don't think it's offered in USA but you can find it on some research biotech sites... I have no experience with it yet but worth a read

 

[eaglecall]

LK3 is exactly right. And that is the big failure of allopathic medicine, unfortunately the only option for the vast majority just because they want.

Psoriasis IS NOT the disease, is THE RESULT of the diseases.
Osteoporosis IS NOT the disease, is THE RESULT of the disease.

And the same goes on with HUNDREDS of chronic conditions. But MD's fail to address the underlying condition causing these symptoms. They only develop drugs to treat the symptoms, but NEVER cure the underlying condition.

In the case of Psoriasis as LK3 mention, the underlying problem is the immune system. Thats why I mentioned gluten, because gluten severely decrease the immune system, pretty much to EVERYBODY. Some people will develop problems/symptoms from it, others don't. However, not developing symptoms is not an indication of gluten tolerance. In fact, getting a cold once in a while or for some the flu, IS INDEED a sign of a weak immune system.

 

[Bio]

LK3 is exactly right. And that is the big failure of allopathic medicine, unfortunately the only option for the vast majority just because they want.

Psoriasis IS NOT the disease, is THE RESULT of the diseases.
Osteoporosis IS NOT the disease, is THE RESULT of the disease.

And the same goes on with HUNDREDS of chronic conditions. But MD's fail to address the underlying condition causing these symptoms. They only develop drugs to treat the symptoms, but NEVER cure the underlying condition.

In the case of Psoriasis as LK3 mention, the underlying problem is the immune system. Thats why I mentioned gluten, because gluten severely decrease the immune system, pretty much to EVERYBODY. Some people will develop problems/symptoms from it, others don't. However, not developing symptoms is not an indication of gluten tolerance. In fact, getting a cold once in a while or for some the flu, IS INDEED a sign of a weak immune system.

Your ignorance is that you think everything is so easily curable. Especially coming from a guy who has stated he has no medical background. Instead of expanding your education, you keep trying to make everything fit into your perception of what you think science and the medical community is.

 

[eaglecall]

Your ignorance is that you think everything is so easily curable. Especially coming from a guy who has stated he has no medical background. Instead of expanding your education, you keep trying to make everything fit into your perception of what you think science and the medical community is.

The proof is in the health state of each one of us. Words are just words....

 

[LK3]

LK3 is exactly right. And that is the big failure of allopathic medicine, unfortunately the only option for the vast majority just because they want.

Psoriasis IS NOT the disease, is THE RESULT of the diseases.
Osteoporosis IS NOT the disease, is THE RESULT of the disease.

And the same goes on with HUNDREDS of chronic conditions. But MD's fail to address the underlying condition causing these symptoms. They only develop drugs to treat the symptoms, but NEVER cure the underlying condition.

In the case of Psoriasis as LK3 mention, the underlying problem is the immune system. Thats why I mentioned gluten, because gluten severely decrease the immune system, pretty much to EVERYBODY. Some people will develop problems/symptoms from it, others don't. However, not developing symptoms is not an indication of gluten tolerance. In fact, getting a cold once in a while or for some the flu, IS INDEED a sign of a weak immune system.

careful bro... lol
im not quite going that far.

AND i sure as shit COULD be wrong. lol

im just sharing my experience.

i think the gluten issue is not just limited to immune.

ppl love to use big terms to define all of this but i think it is much more complicated then definitions. that is why this shit is so hard to deal with if it were just as easy as saying well shit fix the immune system:lightbulb: i think we would not have such problems.

the complexity is why there is so much contraversy and insane number of "user" reports of this, that n the other "helping"

could we be more vague?

 

[eaglecall]

careful bro... lol
im not quite going that far.

AND i sure as shit COULD be wrong. lol

im just sharing my experience.

i think the gluten issue is not just limited to immune.

ppl love to use big terms to define all of this but i think it is much more complicated then definitions. that is why this shit is so hard to deal with if it were just as easy as saying well shit fix the immune system:lightbulb: i think we would not have such problems.

the complexity is why there is so much contraversy and insane number of "user" reports of this, that n the other "helping"

could we be more vague?

And I agree with you bro. I also speak from experience based on how I completely cured myself AGAINST the instructions of every single MD specialist that I saw and insisted on putting me on drugs.

As you mention, we only know so far. We are taking baby steps towards discovering all those complexities of our health, experimenting on ourselves. Nothing is as simple as it sounds or as we sometimes believe.

Some people swear by the pharmaceutical route and I respect that. I just don't think is logic/smart. Is like throwing nuclear bombs to obliterate mexico so we don't have to deal with illegal aliens anymore. Not very intellectual. Thats the way I see the "drug" option. Are they a possibility? of course. But theres many other logic steps that can be done before getting into drugs. Those steps involve long research and experimentation. Of course not recommended, it is up to each individual.

 

[LK3]

And I agree with you bro. I also speak from experience based on how I completely cured myself AGAINST the instructions of every single MD specialist that I saw and insisted on putting me on drugs.

As you mention, we only know so far. We are taking baby steps towards discovering all those complexities of our health, experimenting on ourselves. Nothing is as simple as it sounds or as we sometimes believe.

Some people swear by the pharmaceutical route and I respect that. I just don't think is logic/smart. Is like throwing nuclear bombs to obliterate mexico so we don't have to deal with illegal aliens anymore. Not very intellectual. Thats the way I see the "drug" option. Are they a possibility? of course. But theres many other logic steps that can be done before getting into drugs. Those steps involve long research and experimentation. Of course not recommended, it is up to each individual.

this we basically agree on! lol

 

[buresu]

Vitamin D supplementation workes very well, I got rid of mine by using 5500i/u a day, there are also some studies you can find on the net..I wish her patient and luck.