Very Odd problem...Help Please...

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Very Odd problem...Help Please...

daboxr
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Very Odd problem...Help Please...
First off i love the board. I just kinda sit back and observe, but i got a problem now.
I have been bridging for 6 weeks with winny only at 20mg a day (i have kept all gains and dropped bf) and i am developing gyno.

How is this possible? I am using paperstrol which i have used before with great results.
I am planning on competing this summer so would perfer to stay on. Should i swich to anavar or primo?
Also just for the heck of it i started nolvadex even though i know that is just for estrogen related gyno.

Any opinions would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks



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05-12-2002 04:29 AM



rAJJIN
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Re: Very Odd problem...Help Please...

Originally posted by daboxr
First off i love the board.
Should i swich to anavar or primo?
Also just for the heck of it i started nolvadex even though i know that is just for estrogen related gyno.

Didnt know there was anyother kind of gyno.



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05-12-2002 05:45 AM



BaldEagle
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Re: Re: Very Odd problem...Help Please...

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Originally posted by rAJJIN

Originally posted by daboxr
First off i love the board.
Should i swich to anavar or primo?
Also just for the heck of it i started nolvadex even though i know that is just for estrogen related gyno.

Didnt know there was anyother kind of gyno.
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Progesterone related gyno as well.



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05-12-2002 05:18 PM



Paul Bunyan
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You need to take some kind of anti-e when you come off of a cycle. Winstrol isn't androgenic enough to block the estrogen rebound that you get from the aromatizing androgens like test and dbol.
PB



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05-12-2002 07:36 PM



rAJJIN
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thats news to me, what the hell is progesterone?
thanks rAJJIN



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05-12-2002 11:48 PM



MikeS
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Like Paul said, you will have a rebound of several hormones post cycle. Good ones drop (test), bad ones rise Estro/cortisol). Use an antiestro post cycle like clomid. Progesterone is also a female hormone. Certain AS have progesteronic activity-deca, tren, A50.
IMO this has more of a powerfully negative effect than estrogen side effects.



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05-14-2002 12:00 AM



Jethro Tull
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AH.....GRASSHOPPER....IT ALL BECOMES CLEAR!
GOOD INFO FELLAS!



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05-14-2002 02:26 AM



rAJJIN
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Wow
I agree, thanks MikeS



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05-14-2002 06:02 AM



George W. Bush
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If you're developing gyno now it's from the drastic shift in your test/estrogen ratio coming off your cycle as others have pointed out. Stan converts to DHT not estrogen or progesterone so that's not the cause of your gyno sysmptoms, hairloss possibly but not likely at 20mg/day. You should have used some type of anti-E post cycle so go ahead and get on that ASAP.



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05-14-2002 06:53 AM



daboxr
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thanks guys
Yeah the nolvadex worked like a charm. Gyno is all gone. It must have been all the estrogen built up from the test so it slowly formed into gyno.
Thanks bros.
Later



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05-15-2002 11:32 AM



Hadi
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What do you mean "just for the hell of it"
1st of, thay Winny aint doing you any good. Not at that dosage after a cycle. Clean means clean Use antiaromatase drug during the cycle and nolvadex 20mg everyday when off the cycle for 30 days until you start again.

H