Vets: How much is too much?

[cecray3]

Let's just say hypothetically that we are referring to a subject who is 5'11 205 at 10% bf. Let's also assume that his calorie expenditure throughout an average day, including training is right around 3700 calories. How many calories do you think would be too many to effectively turn those additional calories into muscle as opposed to unwanted bf? 4000? 4500? Any feedback would be appreciated. I guess in other words, what I'm asking is what % of your daily caloric expenditure can you consume and effectively prevent from turning to bf? 110%? 125%?

 

[Moen]

Basically numbers are meaningless, unless you get your personal metabolism thoroughly tested, I can't recall the procedure's name, there is no way of finding out exactly what you need.

That being said you should always go by how you look

 

[cecray3]

I'm just asking for a general equation (if you will). Not some "oh, it depends on your metabolism" bullshit. I expressed in the initial comment that the subject burns approx. 3700 calories/day. If he/she was to eat more than the 3700 calories, without increasing his/her level of activity, would those excess calories turn to fat or is it at all possible to turn those excess calories into muscle?

 

[youngmuscle]

you dont need to store any calories as fat in order to gain muscle. increase his protein intake by 100 grams daily. and have his carbs and fats dependant on his energy demends(varies from day to day workout to workout).

but to answer your question...if he is burning 3700 calories EVERYDAY, then you could add in 100 grams of protien, or 400 calories, and he SHOULDNT have any net fat gains...just muscle growth,

 

[cecray3]

you dont need to store any calories as fat in order to gain muscle. increase his protein intake by 100 grams daily. and have his carbs and fats dependant on his energy demends(varies from day to day workout to workout).

but to answer your question...if he is burning 3700 calories EVERYDAY, then you could add in 100 grams of protien, or 400 calories, and he SHOULDNT have any net fat gains...just muscle growth,

This is the kind of answer I was looking for...thanks ym!

 

[Paul Bunyan]

I'd say 500cal above maintenance should do it. Your body can only build muscle so fast even when chemically enhanced. Just monitor your bodyfat levels until you find the breaking point.

PB

 

[cecray3]

Thanks for the feedback pb!

 

[oldfella]

I'd say 500cal above maintenance should do it. Your body can only build muscle so fast even when chemically enhanced. Just monitor your bodyfat levels until you find the breaking point.

PB

Bump this.......I was going to say, if you are burning 3700 then add 500 to that!! See where you are at. This is the easy way to work it out.

 

[youngmuscle]

This is the kind of answer I was looking for...thanks ym!

no prob !

 

[cal]

Have to agree with Phil H. and in that people overanalyze this, esp. if youre not competing in some high level contest.

If youre eating beyond point where youre full or satiated then you're gonna get fat...and if you let yourself get hungry well.......

 

[Moen]

Yeah but that's 'oh that depends on your metabolism' bullshit cal