Viagra or Cialis for PCT?

[DeeZ]

Ive read several different places that ED meds stimulate natural test production is this enough to use for pct? Just curious about it and wondered if any of you guys have had and experience or knowledge on this subject. Any input is appreciated.

 

[mrmarcus]

No direspect brother but i got a bridge for sale, viagra = strictly hardons, open your blood vessels......................

 

[DeeZ]

I know but several recent studies show that cialis and viagra stimulate natural testosterone production.

 

[ythrashn]

I think I read somewhere that dostinex helps restore testosterone production. There any truth in this?

 

[dr. livingstone]

Ive read several different places that ED meds stimulate natural test production is this enough to use for pct? Just curious about it and wondered if any of you guys have had and experience or knowledge on this subject. Any input is appreciated.

Yes you are right that ED have a positive effect on test production. The effect is not strong enough though to rely on it solely for PCT. Here is a study done on mice, studies on men showed the same effect although a lot less strong.

 

[DeeZ]

I didn't read this on a board I read several different studies that were done. I was curious if anyone that happened to be using cialis or any other ed med during PCT happened to notice recovery any faster.

 

[rocco-x]

i think alot of guys are using these compounds while running pct not for the test benefits,just to get the wood going a little stronger.

 

[cjjrwe]

I only use it if I am having ED issues. The ability to get wood is an indicator to me that my natural production is coming back on line and that the PCT is working.

 

[domeyeahaight]

well..if it is just for helpin Ed i would go with cia..the weekend drug babay!

 

[twinhart]

Thats news for me.

 

[Steve123]

Ive read several different places that ED meds stimulate natural test production is this enough to use for pct? Just curious about it and wondered if any of you guys have had and experience or knowledge on this subject. Any input is appreciated.

Dude, you are getting really bad information. ED meds do abolutely nothing to stimulate Test. They are used in PCT to keep your dick hard when you have sex with the MRS (or the mr. if that's your thing). Because, in the early days of PCT, you could have issues in this department.

 

[40plusnewbie]

That's some expensive ass cialis from the indians bro. I got some generic for way cheaper than that. I don't know about test production, first I've heard of that... but I have used both viagra and cialis for hard on's and go for cialis hands down as it lasts way longer, a couple of days compared to like 6 hrs with the viagra.

 

[sharkey]

That's some expensive ass cialis from the indians bro. I got some generic for way cheaper than that. I don't know about test production, first I've heard of that... but I have used both viagra and cialis for hard on's and go for cialis hands down as it lasts way longer, a couple of days compared to like 6 hrs with the viagra.

X2. I like the longer time window of cialis also. I'm about to start my pct and got my order of liquid tadalafil(cialis). Yeah, it's strictly vasodialation purposes for which you take cialis or viagara, to make your vessels larger and more blood can be "pumped" into the penis when stimulated. As far as recovery you still have to do normal pct. like clomid/ nolva, hcg., etc.

 

[strognarm]

they dont do it strong enoff for PCT

 

[Juice Authority]

Ive read several different places that ED meds stimulate natural test production is this enough to use for pct? Just curious about it and wondered if any of you guys have had and experience or knowledge on this subject. Any input is appreciated.

Can you please post the medical journal where you found that interesting tidbit of information? Shit, Pfizer may want to replace testosterone with Viagra from HRT. This is some groundbreaking stuff.

 

[AJW91]

Dude, you are getting really bad information. ED meds do abolutely nothing to stimulate Test. They are used in PCT to keep your dick hard when you have sex with the MRS (or the mr. if that's your thing). Because, in the early days of PCT, you could have issues in this department.

Can you please post the medical journal where you found that interesting tidbit of information? Shit, Pfizer may want to replace testosterone with Viagra from HRT. This is some groundbreaking stuff.

Another poster posted this link before you guys responded with those comments: http://www.ingentaconnect.com/content/bsc/ijep/2009/00000090/00000004/art00009

Chronic treatment with sildenafil stimulates Leydig cell and testosterone secretion

Source: International Journal of Experimental Pathology, Volume 90, Number 4, August 2009 , pp. 454-462(9)

Abstract:
Summary

The phosphodiesterase type 5 (PDE5) inhibitor, Sildenafil, is a novel, oral treatment approach for pulmonary hypertension. As Leydig cells present PDE5, this study was conducted to investigate the effects of the chronic treatment with Sildenafil (25 mg/kg) on male Swiss Webster mice steroidogenesis. After a 4-week long experimental design, Leydig cells were analysed by morphological and immunocytochemical procedures. Serum testosterone was assayed by radioimmunoassay. Leydig cells presented noteworthy ultrastructural alterations, such as a vesicular smooth endoplasmic reticulum, large vacuoles scattered through the cytoplasm, enlarged mitochondria with discontinue cristaes and whorle membranes with vesicles at the periphery, which are typical characteristics of an activated steroid-secreting cell. Important immunocytochemical labelling for steroidogenic acute regulatory protein, cytochrome P450 side-chain cleavage enzyme and testosterone were detected in isolated Leydig cells. In addition, Sildenafil-treated mice showed significant increased levels of total testosterone. The results obtained in the present study are consistent with the hypothesis that the accumulation of cyclic guanosine monophosphate by PDE5 inhibition could be involved in the androgen biosynthesis stimulation. Important clinical implications of hormonal disorders should be taken into account for patients with pulmonary hypertension.

 

[LeanMachine]

Cool... Another benefit to Viagra. I would guess Cialis would have the same effect since it has similar pharmacological effects. Personally, I like Cialis because 1 - 15mg dose can keep me up all weekend