vodka/// just asking

[brian_alex]

very very true

here's the truth.
Alcohol(conservatively consumed)+ bodybuilding = wont kill you
Bodybuilding + no alcohol = optimal.

if you have a martini every saturday night while training its not gonna really hurt. if you are in contest prep it will, but the rest of the year it wont kill you. just use your head. you can either be a HEALTHY bodybuilder, or someone who parties who happens to have some muscles. theyre 2 different things. binge drinking and steroids are a real recipe for disaster. a glass of wine wiht a really nice filet, isnt going to put you in the hospital.

 

[strongrhino]

very very true

Problem bein noone has just 1- unless ya try to impress or hang with a bitch. If i go I go- and it aint 1. And I dont get drunk just a nice buzz. That being said Im 42 and know my limits. 6% or better I metabolize fast and I mean fast. I would rather "fake" it and not kill the next day. Truth of the matter is that date- on average 28 year olds so I need to hang. Some ultra light beers for right and I sip slow. Want to perform without that blue pill so Ido my thing. Listen to my body. No stuation have not been in at my age so I know what up. Got a few good years left to "roll" so I need utilize my time wisely.

 

[valleymentality]

I heard once apon a time

That Alcohol is converted into an acetate and this is the will be used before carbs and fat, so while your pissed your not using the calories from your food until all the acetate has cleared the system, but that could just be bro science

 

[BYBON]

C2H6O(Ethanol)→C2H4O(Acetaldehyde)→C2H4O2(acetic Acid) →Acetyl-CoA→3H2O+2CO2

a.k.a. Ethanol (alcohol)->acetaldehyde->acetic acid->Acetyl-COA->water and carbon dioxide.

Now this is the important part:
It's the calories and the additional eating that comes with alcohol (alcohol munchies for me :banghead that makes you fat.

However, alcohol DOES cause suppression to lipid oxidation, but this may be counteracted with a meal that is relatively carbohydrate defecient (in other words, don't eat as much):

From Am J Clin Nutr. 1994 Mar;59(3):619-25.
Effect of alcohol on postmeal fat storage, "..We conclude that alcohol has a fat-sparing effect similar to that of carbohydrate and will only cause fat gain when consumed in excess of normal energy needs."

 

[BYBON]

That Alcohol is converted into an acetate and this is the will be used before carbs and fat, so while your pissed your not using the calories from your food until all the acetate has cleared the system, but that could just be bro science

So yea, bro science. Forgot to add that response.