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What’s the least amount of deca/NPP you’ve found effective for reducing joint pain?

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I haven’t used deca or NPP in over 10 years because it always lowered my sex drive. However, I always took a minimum of 200 mgs per week along with a test base. I’m thinking about trying 50-100 mgs per week to see if that amount is enough to reduce inflammation of the joints. I’m going to use cabergoline, cialis and proviron along with 500 mgs of test-e alongside the deca in order to try and combat sexual dysfunction. Any input from you guys would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance!
 

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I've had success on this front pinning 50mg of NPP twice a week. The only other thing I was running was a prescribed TRT dose of 120mg twice per week. My aching shoulders thanked me, and I suffered no perceivable side effects.
 

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I took 90mg a week and it was effective but unfortunately it raises my prolactin even at that small dose so I must take caber but even at 2x/week dosing caber my prolactin levels still fluctuate and give me discomfort.
 

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25-50mg a week would be the minimum, although most would begin to feel true joint relief at 70-100mg/week.
 

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I did well with 150 mg/week. I inject test twice a week so I added 1/2 cc to my Monday dose.
 

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I've had success on this front pinning 50mg of NPP twice a week. The only other thing I was running was a prescribed TRT dose of 120mg twice per week. My aching shoulders thanked me, and I suffered no perceivable side effects.
This is good to know. I’m also going to try 50 mgs of NPP twice a week.
 

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I took 90mg a week and it was effective but unfortunately it raises my prolactin even at that small dose so I must take caber but even at 2x/week dosing caber my prolactin levels still fluctuate and give me discomfort.
I’m afraid the same thing is going to happen to me. So, I’m going to try adding proviron to help counteract the loss in sex drive. I’ve read that DECA/NPP lowers DHT levels. The proviron should help.
 

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I’m afraid the same thing is going to happen to me. So, I’m going to try adding proviron to help counteract the loss in sex drive. I’ve read that DECA/NPP lowers DHT levels. The proviron should help.
Yeah it should help same as adding mast or primo but it still won’t reduce prolactin (at least for me). As I know you know based on previous convos we’ve had, prolactin is the fucking nasty shit.

Only thing I’ve found to work is a combination of:
9meBC + bromantane + ldopa

But I’m leery staying on that long term in fear of burning out my DA system.
 

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If solely looking for joint relief have you considered BPC-157 and maybe TB500. I tried some deca for the first time for joints and even at 100mg/week it is NOT for me. I went with BPC-157 500mcg post workout and this is working very well as it always does for me. Going to keep it as a staple from here on out.
 

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If solely looking for joint relief have you considered BPC-157 and maybe TB500. I tried some deca for the first time for joints and even at 100mg/week it is NOT for me. I went with BPC-157 500mcg post workout and this is working very well as it always does for me. Going to keep it as a staple from here on out.
I tried BPC-157 and it made me feel lethargic.
 

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I tried BPC-157 and it made me feel lethargic.
All day? I am always tired to begin with and have never noticed this in the least? How much and how often and when were you dosing?
 

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After literally five shoulder surgeries and two bicep surgeries I was absolutely desperate for joint relief. I added 100 mg a week of Deca to my TRT protocol of 200 mg of week of test. After about a month I started to get some relief. I’m unsure if it’s a placebo effect but I’ll take it. It’s almost like a got a little shot of wd-40 into my joints. The only downside is it did screw up my lipid panel with the cholesterol. based on that I’m doing three months of test and deca and then three months of just my TRT test. Good luck
 

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all yall who say nandrolone raises prolactin, do u have the blood tests proving that?
cuz everyone ive seen on nandrolone who got bloods had zero rises in prolactiin. zero.
but, they were on little test.
 

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all yall who say nandrolone raises prolactin, do u have the blood tests proving that?
cuz everyone ive seen on nandrolone who got bloods had zero rises in prolactiin. zero.
but, they were on little test.

havent had access to labs in a while.
i generally go by my nipples.
lol
the times i have had blood work done that have been either nothing or just trt my prolactin has always been on the high end of normal.
 

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havent had access to labs in a while.
i generally go by my nipples.
lol
the times i have had blood work done that have been either nothing or just trt my prolactin has always been on the high end of normal.
Hormonal changes alone can cause nipple issues. I've had prolactin mid-range, low estrogen and nipple issues, I've also had sensitive estrogen test at 97 and no nipple issues. Not sure I buy into prolactin issues. I've ran tren many times(I know this thread is about deca). I've tried caber and prami, both pharma grade, I know the prami was legit, it has distinctive sides, and neither stopped tren induced gyno despite estrogen being in range but anytime I've upped my ai while taking tren, no gyno issues. I think it all still comes down to estrogen and we know that deca/npp converts to estrogen at a higher rate than test.
 

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Yeah it should help same as adding mast or primo but it still won’t reduce prolactin (at least for me). As I know you know based on previous convos we’ve had, prolactin is the fucking nasty shit.

Only thing I’ve found to work is a combination of:
9meBC + bromantane + ldopa

But I’m leery staying on that long term in fear of burning out my DA system.

I'm leery of the L-Dopa long term but those other products are supposed to be "non-exhausting" on the system unlike other stims. If it's true I don't know and it's posssible they don't even know how those products work exactly. I know the bromantane kind of leaves me exhausted and cracked out by afternoon.
 

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I'm leery of the L-Dopa long term but those other products are supposed to be "non-exhausting" on the system unlike other stims. If it's true I don't know and it's posssible they don't even know how those products work exactly. I know the bromantane kind of leaves me exhausted and cracked out by afternoon.
What’s your dosage on the bromantane? I started out high dosage around 150-200mg but since have dropped it down to 50mg a day

I agree with you about l dopa. It should NOT be abused.
 

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What’s your dosage on the bromantane? I started out high dosage around 150-200mg but since have dropped it down to 50mg a day

I agree with you about l dopa. It should NOT be abused.

I only used 50mg mostly, a few times 100mg, never tried more than that. I notice the stimulation very much but others I've had try it didn't notice much at all. I guess it's individual. How stimulated do you get?
 

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