WHAT ARE YOU ACTUALLY TAKING?

[b-boy]

250mg Test E per week
300mg EQ per week
500ius HCG per week
10mg Tamox M W F
2iu GH per day

Why tamoxifen? Do you actually need it with 250mg test and 300 eq? I bet if you would use telmisartan you could get a host of other benefits and not need gyno protection.

 

[pistonpump]

Test E 500mg ew. split in 2 doses
Oral Winstrol 50mg Ed. Going into 4th week
upping to 100mg ed.
HGH 3-4 iu generic ed.
Igf1-lr3. 100mcg pre-workout
Novalin R 10iu. around workout
Arimidex 1mg with
HCG 300iu twice a week

Making nice gains with this as a cruise

Haven't had bloods but feeling great with this.

 

[Swifto]

Why tamoxifen? Do you actually need it with 250mg test and 300 eq? I bet if you would use telmisartan you could get a host of other benefits and not need gyno protection.

Yeah, my nipples get itchy, puffy, sensitive.

That was with Test + Deca 250mg.

I've switched to EQ last week and people claim it "lowers estrogen', even though it aromatases, so we will see. Maybe I wont need it.

 

[Pusher]

That's a nice dose of Test. Why the 30 mg cialis?

I like the ‘big’ boost in hard-on the day of and next day over the more consistent but not as extreme daily 10mg.

Plus I’m afraid of desensitization from daily dosing.

Agreed, unless he’s a pornstar

started featuring in girls OF’s during the shutdown & found I like the big single doses 3-4days apart Plus a single 50mg sildenafil dose sublingual 20min prior to starting. I’m one of those guys who gets “high” from sex, which isn’t as cool as you’d think.

Any ai ?

no. Not rn anyways. Not competing, so the only thing I have to be ‘in shape’ for is filming mentioned above. More importantly, fucking with my E2 can kill my sex drive quickly. likely add Adex 2wks after I add the Drol and Proviron @.25-.50mg the days after test injections.

 

[Mufasa123]

Yeah, my nipples get itchy, puffy, sensitive.

That was with Test + Deca 250mg.

I've switched to EQ last week and people claim it "lowers estrogen', even though it aromatases, so we will see. Maybe I wont need it.

I'd never used equipoise in 30yrs and tossed some into a winter bulk. Lots of experience with AIs, primo and mast. No AAS hits my E2 like equipoise. Frocking crippled me. Never been that low on E2 every joint was screwed started adding more test and by the time I got bloods E2 was 21 but I've been at 7-10 and not felt like that.

Obviously everyone is different and I guess I'm some kind of hyper responder to it on the E2 side (equipoise I believe aromatizes to E1/estrone) but actually blew up my whole cycle from joint issues. Was running 750 test, 600 deca, 175mg tren and 600 equipoise. E2 for me on 200/200 test/deca is well into 80 to 100 range so I do aromatize a good amount. YMMV but for me that shit was real. Had no idea.

 

[lynxeffect1]

I like the ‘big’ boost in hard-on the day of and next day over the more consistent but not as extreme daily 10mg.

Plus I’m afraid of desensitization from daily dosing.

started featuring in girls OF’s during the shutdown & found I like the big single doses 3-4days apart Plus a single 50mg sildenafil dose sublingual 20min prior to starting. I’m one of those guys who gets “high” from sex, which isn’t as cool as you’d think.

no. Not rn anyways. Not competing, so the only thing I have to be ‘in shape’ for is filming mentioned above. More importantly, fucking with my E2 can kill my sex drive quickly. likely add Adex 2wks after I add the Drol and Proviron @.25-.50mg the days after test injections.

Just curious have you tested your e2 before on that amount of test?

 

[Pusher]

Just curious have you tested your e2 before on that amount of test?

Years ago when was at 4g or 6g I forget and was in the 90’s but I think I had some Adex in me. I’ve never gone over 1mg 3-4 days a week, good chance it was only 1/2mg.

test was maxed out. Didn’t read over 9,999ng/dl. Ive had other bloodwork at 13k with two 900mg syringes twice a week, but don’t recall the E2 or even free test.

 

[kastro]

Not much here. Low dose guy especially for the next month or so. Been doing below for a month and a half now.

175 mg test c per week
200 mg mast e per week
2.4 IU generic HGH per day
50 mcg T4 per day

How do you like it so far?I run something similar besides the growth.Love mast never have had bad bloods in it

 

[lifter]

He’s full of shit. Just a troll, banned no more than a day ago. He couldn’t even afford the test dose alone

ah, thanks for the heads up. I should check in more often.

 

[lifter]

How do you like it so far?I run something similar besides the growth.Love mast never have had bad bloods in it

Its treating me pretty well actually. I just had my bloods taken for the doc the other day and hoping my markers look good.
Right now I am focusing more on a 50/50 split working in more cardio than usual with the weight training. Physically I feel good and I hope my markers back that up.

 

[Muay Thai]

A "very anabolic Masteron" is what we've all been wishing for.
So they gave us Superdrol.
And fucked us up

I find its manageable if you ONLY TAKE SUPERDROL PRE WORKOUT, a few times per week. today i took one 20mg tab from IVG with 20iu slin preworkout, and went super hypo after the steamroom, i was fine up until then even in the sauna, in all my experiences since the damn stuff was legal and flooding market I always knew it functioned similarly to insulin in some very distinct ways/mechanisms. thank god for raw honey sticks, and organic fruit snacks in gym bag.

 

[goback2013]

I find its manageable if you ONLY TAKE SUPERDROL PRE WORKOUT, a few times per week. today i took one 20mg tab from IVG with 20iu slin preworkout, and went super hypo after the steamroom, i was fine up until then even in the sauna, in all my experiences since the damn stuff was legal and flooding market I always knew it functioned similarly to insulin in some very distinct ways/mechanisms. thank god for raw honey sticks, and organic fruit snacks in gym bag.

Yes. I now remember that about sdrol that shit had you hypo like no other.
Tbol does the same to me.
As does rad

 

[MouthBreather1982]

And touching on the above posters question. I see them interchanged all the time, but isn't primo more like a non aromatizing, but anabolic, that is a dht derivative but doesn't cause much of the androgenic affect???? While mast is the complete opposite and not dht itself a woman would never take, but also has no anabolic rating???? I'm asking like a newb, it's over my head. Bult from a toxic stand point or sides,can we compare all three with ratios to each other and maybe a 1-10 for this or that besides the actually scientific reasoning. Sorrry for my rant I'm chilling with Willy Nelson at the moment

 

[MouthBreather1982]

Yes. I now remember that about sdrol that shit had you hypo like no other.
Tbol does the same to me.
As does rad

What dosage was normal then? And how does that compare to say dbol on whatever way you can compare with test?

 

[Doitagain]

And touching on the above posters question. I see them interchanged all the time, but isn't primo more like a non aromatizing, but anabolic, that is a dht derivative but doesn't cause much of the androgenic affect???? While mast is the complete opposite and not dht itself a woman would never take, but also has no anabolic rating???? I'm asking like a newb, it's over my head. Bult from a toxic stand point or sides,can we compare all three with ratios to each other and maybe a 1-10 for this or that besides the actually scientific reasoning. Sorrry for my rant I'm chilling with Willy Nelson at the moment

Both Primo and Mast are chemically closely related to DHT (Mast being even closer).
They both have been given an A:A ratio, lower than Testosterone for both (on paper, using the Hershberger Bioassay in Rats).
I do believe that the different degree of anabolism in the real world lies in their vastly differing effect on SHBG binding: 3% for Primo and 39% for Mast.
As you can see pretty much all Methenolone runs in its free un-bounded form unlike Mast.

 

[Doitagain]

Both Primo and Mast are chemically closely related to DHT (Mast being even closer).
They both have been given an A:A ratio, lower than Testosterone for both (on paper, using the Hershberger Bioassay in Rats).
I do believe that the different degree of anabolism in the real world lies in their vastly differing effect on SHBG binding: 3% for Primo and 39% for Mast.
As you can see pretty much all Methenolone runs in its free un-bounded form unlike Mast.

P.s.: Proviron, essentially void of any anabolic activity in humans, has about 440% higher SHBG binding affinity than DHT, leaving pretty much nothing available for direct ARs activation.
Couple this with its inactivation by the 3α-HSD enzyme in skeletal muscles tissue and you can easily realize that it won't elicit any anabolism even at extremely high dosages.

 

[TheRoid]

I find its manageable if you ONLY TAKE SUPERDROL PRE WORKOUT, a few times per week. today i took one 20mg tab from IVG with 20iu slin preworkout, and went super hypo after the steamroom, i was fine up until then even in the sauna, in all my experiences since the damn stuff was legal and flooding market I always knew it functioned similarly to insulin in some very distinct ways/mechanisms. thank god for raw honey sticks, and organic fruit snacks in gym bag.

Interesting observation.
We have zero scientific evidence about this, but anecdotally SD possesses this unique trait indeed; it causes a supercharged glycogen storage like no other AAS, it shuttles glucose into the muscle cells so powerfully that going slightly hypo is not uncomon and yeah it's not an insulin-mediated phenomenon. Possibly via facilitated diffusion through the GLUT4 glucose transporter. Just a theory.

 

[TheRoid]

Both Primo and Mast are chemically closely related to DHT (Mast being even closer).
They both have been given an A:A ratio, lower than Testosterone for both (on paper, using the Hershberger Bioassay in Rats).
I do believe that the different degree of anabolism in the real world lies in their vastly differing effect on SHBG binding: 3% for Primo and 39% for Mast.
As you can see pretty much all Methenolone runs in its free un-bounded form unlike Mast.

Good post. True or not, this explanation holds water at least.

 

[Pusher]

P.s.: Proviron, essentially void of any anabolic activity in humans, has about 440% higher SHBG binding affinity than DHT, leaving pretty much nothing available for direct ARs activation.
Couple this with its inactivation by the 3α-HSD enzyme in skeletal muscles tissue and you can easily realize that it won't elicit any anabolism even at extremely high dosages.

wait, what are you saying?
Proviron occupies AR and other AAS can't activate AR?

 

[SouthernMuscle]

wait, what are you saying?
Proviron occupies AR and other AAS can't activate AR?

No, basically proviron never makes it to the AR