What do you say if someone asks if you’re natural?

[AllLoadedUp]

Dudes love to come up to me and tell me what their cycle is. At the bar, the gym, the sauna. And gyatt damn most of them barely even look like they lift. And they're often running some wild shit like tren and orals.

Very few people speak to me in the gym. I go to a small gym. Everybody pretty much "recognizes" each other. Very few speak to me except the people I've known a long time in there. I wear my headphones and mind my business. Mostly all men. Few women. I haven't trained in a "big" gym in a couple years. Wouldn't know how to act if I saw a bunch of hotties. Ha ha. Years ago maybe 2 or 3 people knew I juiced. IE I talked to them about it. I was always very quiet. It is so prevalent now among people I'm more open. But still private. I'm fairly open about being on "TRT" but I never mention about taking anything else. I'm just an old man doing TRT.

 

[graybass]

Always, always say no. Plus you never know when you're going to run into some 19-year-old cop fresh from the academy thinks he's going to make a name for himself busting some bodybuilder with drugs!

 

[SouthernMuscle]

I’m just wondering where yall are finding these people that just walk up and talk to you out of nowhere like you know each other. It’s insane to me

 

[fisther69]

I tell them no

 

[BWH998]

Ask em why theyre trying to insult me then be messed up in the head all day bcus i know they had a point.

 

[BWH998]

Never asked if I’m natural but asked what I’m on, normally say trt depending on who it is. The young bucks need to realize diet, training and recovery come before anything else

I recently tried to explain this to a couple and they absolutely refused to believe it.

Straight up told them i have tried to fix a shitty diet and routine by adding gear, and all it did was waste money and bloat me.

Then you try to explain how everything starts coming along once you get the diet and routine (both lifting and sleeping) in order, and they think youre fucking lying.

Let them waste their money i guess.

 

[Splitzz]

I recently tried to explain this to a couple and they absolutely refused to believe it.

Straight up told them i have tried to fix a shitty diet and routine by adding gear, and all it did was waste money and bloat me.

Then you try to explain how everything starts coming along once you get the diet and routine (both lifting and sleeping) in order, and they think youre fucking lying.

Let them waste their money i guess.

Money an health but no one worries about that when there young.

 

[massephase]

bcus i know they had a point.

What exactly is the point?

 

[massephase]

I’m just wondering where yall are finding these people that just walk up and talk to you out of nowhere like you know each other. It’s insane to me

There's definitely a strain of people that are like that.

Maybe you look a lot more intimidating than all of us

 

[BWH998]

What exactly is the point?

I look like shit

 

[neutrino]

"i take creatine, so clearly no"

 

[massephase]

"i take creatine, so clearly no"

I had a guy ask me whether I take stuff and I was already apprehensive but as we kept on talking, he said that he admits he does take creatine, but that he does it in a smart way. He only takes it half of the year and then takes the other half off to take stress of his kidneys

Instant relief in that situation

 

[neutrino]

I had a guy ask me whether I take stuff and I was already apprehensive but as we kept on talking, he said that he admits he does take creatine, but that he does it in a smart way. He only takes it half of the year and then takes the other half off to take stress of his kidneys

Instant relief in that situation

Bro, I can see this conversation in my head. Its like dude is coming out of the closet to you..... a real heart-to-heart come clean moment. Thats some good shit right there

There is all sorts of funny ways to spin these conversations with strangers. Where it really gets hairy is when family starts popping the question. My mother asks me every time I visit her (happens to line up with the end of a cycle 2 times a year). And I have learned how to dodge my way out of it, but I can tell wife is doing her best not to burst out laughing

 

[SouthernMuscle]

There's definitely a strain of people that are like that.

I believe it

Maybe you look a lot more intimidating than all of us

yeah idk about that
Probably just not in that many public places long enough for an interaction to occur

 

[SouthernMuscle]

I had a guy ask me whether I take stuff and I was already apprehensive but as we kept on talking, he said that he admits he does take creatine, but that he does it in a smart way. He only takes it half of the year and then takes the other half off to take stress of his kidneys

Instant relief in that situation

Had a guy at a previous job tell me he “ain’t fuckin w no creatine because it shrinks your dick”

i was just in awe of how stupid some people are. I didn’t even bother explaining, just uh huh and kept moving.


In the rare event that an acquaintance or relative has asked quietly after looking around the room for feds “you like…..taking anything…..?
I tell em wholeheartedly “Hell yes! Every bit of testosterone that I can get prescribed! You interested? I can let my doc know”
Never had any takers

 

[Simon90]

Had a guy at a previous job tell me he “ain’t fuckin w no creatine because it shrinks your dick”

i was just in awe of how stupid some people are. I didn’t even bother explaining, just uh huh and kept moving.


In the rare event that an acquaintance or relative has asked quietly after looking around the room for feds “you like…..taking anything…..?
I tell em wholeheartedly “Hell yes! Every bit of testosterone that I can get prescribed! You interested? I can let my doc know”
Never had any takers

I'd have whipped mine out to prove him wrong.....








By telling him it was that way even before starting creatine

 

[Siggy]

I had a couple of people at my gym ask me fishing questions very recently,. I decided to tell them I was using Test. Not doing that again. Though they approached me in a cool way, I can tell they thought that the Test was responsible for my growth, certainly not all the gym time. Next time Im just saying im not on anything. Its not worth it to discuss it with anyone that isnt in your circle. Hell, even with those who are in your circle.

I now see why everyone lies about their dosages and usage. You are in a lose-lose situation most of the time when it comes to disclosing this stuff.

 

[workingclass]

I had a couple of people at my gym ask me fishing questions very recently,. I decided to tell them I was using Test. Not doing that again. Though they approached me in a cool way, I can tell they thought that the Test was responsible for my growth, certainly not all the gym time. Next time Im just saying im not on anything. Its not worth it to discuss it with anyone that isnt in your circle. Hell, even with those who are in your circle.

I now see why everyone lies about their dosages and usage. You are in a lose-lose situation most of the time when it comes to disclosing this stuff.

they ALWAYS go straight to gear
they ALWAYS minimize your efforts in some bs veiled comment

and it's almost ALWAYS ppl who are unwilling to do all the things it takes to get there
everything that I would suspect 90% of the guys here on pm do on a daily basis

about 4-5yrs ago there was this dude who always had comments
once I posted my vit/min stack, dude called me and said "any trt in the stack"
he wld always make small stupid comments like this acting like he was just kidding

now this kid was actually training but he wasn't dieting he wasn't prepping meals and carrying them around w him
seafood diet - see food and eat it thinking you will grow

inside I knew he really just wanted to look like me
inside I knew he wanted to do the things I was doing but was too afraid to be straight up

about 3yrs ago he called me asking me to coach him lol
I said we talk all the time already so instead of throwing coaching into the mix how about you just call my coach

a month or so later he calls me saying "dude if I'm gonna go down this road I need someone to be straight w me and tell me what is what"
for the first two years I never outright said what I do or that I do anything lololol
but we both know

now today
he not only trains but he diets, does his check ins, carries meals w him, stays up late to finish his food etc etc and runs gear
the kid looks phenomenal and is achieving the physique he always wanted
most importantly he learned quickly that it's NEVER just about the gear
while the gear is powerful for the next step it is NEVER just a magic solution

best part of all of this
dude now calls me to complain about all the bs veiled comments he gets because he is on gear lolol
he asked me just last week "when did ppl stop making comments to you"
I said "never man. they will get less and less but they will always be there. welcome"
he has now learned what it's all really like

 

[madcap71]

I say "define natural".

Luckily I haven't been asked that in a good while but my goal is for people to ask me what's my cycle.

That being said, I'm too old and set in my ways to lie about it, I know loads of guys now on legit TRT who don't look like they train so the stigma is a bit less. Plus I can show them pristine bloodwork and scans if I need to

 

[d4ve]

I'd swipe away my lines in the sand regarding doses and go pin another couple CCs

Real talk, the only time I ever actually get asked this question is when someone I've never met wants to talk gear. It's a brazen and disrespectful thing to ask someone you just met, especially in a country where PEDs are illegal - but that's what you can expect from someone who focuses solely on drugs.

But I'm autistically honest, and usually I feel bad just brushing someone aside, so I'll answer honestly - no. And I hope the conversation stops there, but it never does, and then the guy asking proceeds to rattle off his own stack, PED history, etc. and then immediately ask for my advice or suggestions...again, having just met.

At that point, I do get pissed, and I tell them I'm not going to make drug recommendations to someone I don't even know, with little context, in the middle of a training session.

...this is why I use over-the-ear headphones, lol.