What does GH actually do?

[rhinozt47]

I know GH supposedly aids in fat loss, helps joint and tendon repair, causes you to “look” real full and round, etc. That said, I feel like I’m missing something. Everybody who’s serious has GH in their protocol and they will pay top dollar for it. I just don’t understand what is the one thing that GH does that guys can’t live without.

I have done a ton of searching and I just find a bunch of recursive arguments. It would be greatly appreciated if someone could explain this in a simple way.

Thanks!

 

[RandomLifter]

Tells the Cells it’s “ok to grow”.

 

[beardedgorilla]

There's also anti aging benefits with it for those of us that are getting up there in age. Hair, nails, skin all improve while on hgh. Just 2iu a day over a few months and you'll be surprised with the results.

 

[rhinozt47]

I’m just saying there has to be something to it that I don’t see for guys to abuse the shit outta the stuff and pay a small fortune. Take some time to google before and afters of some pro bodybuilders and look at the difference in their facial and head appearance. Thats years of massive GH doses. But why?

 

[JUICEDUP3]

Fountain of youth.. Just look at J-Low

 

[traininsane11]

I’m just saying there has to be something to it that I don’t see for guys to abuse the shit outta the stuff and pay a small fortune. Take some time to google before and afters of some pro bodybuilders and look at the difference in their facial and head appearance. Thats years of massive GH doses. But why?

Because if you wanna be the best you gotta do what it takes to be the best

It’s not magic but neither is anything else but if you’re cranking every other lever why wouldn’t you do that to it ALL works in various synergies to move you closer to the end goal

 

[mexbeast]

I know GH supposedly aids in fat loss, helps joint and tendon repair, causes you to “look” real full and round, etc. That said, I feel like I’m missing something. Everybody who’s serious has GH in their protocol and they will pay top dollar for it. I just don’t understand what is the one thing that GH does that guys can’t live without.

I have done a ton of searching and I just find a bunch of recursive arguments. It would be greatly appreciated if someone could explain this in a simple way.

Thanks!

Good question! Have you tried it? If so at what doses? How old are you? Everything i ever read was in the 90's through 05 or so, so i don't remember much, but i can tell you it makes a great difference in how you feel and look, but I'm talking about 2 to 4 iu's.
Is it worth the look some get from abusing it? Not for me but for the pros, well it's up to them. Even Stephen matela grew he face! And or head. The other thing to consider is hart enlargement, but i doubt it is significant with the smaller doses.

 

[rhinozt47]

See, nobody can point to the exact mechanism that people use it for. Just vague responses that are basically “well it helps with stuff.”

Yea I’ve made two good runs with it before and I am currently 4 weeks in using 3iu/day. I get water retention, joint pain, and low back pumps. But hey, I look fuller and more vascular! That’s sarcasm. It genuinely fucks with my training and my daily existence. I’d be willing to tolerate that shit if I knew there was some payoff that I was working toward, I just don’t know what it could be.

 

[stevecleves]

Wrong thread sorry. Ignore.

 

[mexbeast]

See, nobody can point to the exact mechanism that people use it for. Just vague responses that are basically “well it helps with stuff.”

Yea I’ve made two good runs with it before and I am currently 4 weeks in using 3iu/day. I get water retention, joint pain, and low back pumps. But hey, I look fuller and more vascular! That’s sarcasm. It genuinely fucks with my training and my daily existence. I’d be willing to tolerate that shit if I knew there was some payoff that I was working toward, I just don’t know what it could be.

Well what good is it going to do for you to understand what GH does if you can't tolerate it or if it makes you feel terrible? I don't care what tren does or how it works, it destroys me, so i don't use it

 

[sciroxx-lab]

I know GH supposedly aids in fat loss, helps joint and tendon repair, causes you to “look” real full and round, etc. That said, I feel like I’m missing something. Everybody who’s serious has GH in their protocol and they will pay top dollar for it. I just don’t understand what is the one thing that GH does that guys can’t live without.

I have done a ton of searching and I just find a bunch of recursive arguments. It would be greatly appreciated if someone could explain this in a simple way.

Thanks!

These articles are worth reading, brother.

HGH and fat burning
HGH and anti-aging

 

[BigBaldBeardGuy]

As I understand it, one of the many things HGH does and the most applicable for us, is signal the liver to release IGF-1. Igf-1 is a signaling hormone that then tells the cells in your muscles to kick up the protein synthesis. This is the building block for additional muscle cells.

Steroids also cause an increase in igf-1 but not to the same degree that HGH does. Steroids primarily work at the androgen receptor, while HGH works on a totally different pathway. That’s why they work so well together. Multiple pathways = more growth.

 

[RandomLifter]

As I understand it, one of the many things HGH does and the most applicable for us, is signal the liver to release IGF-1. Igf-1 is a signaling hormone that then tells the cells in your muscles to kick up the protein synthesis. This is the building block for additional muscle cells.

Steroids also cause an increase in igf-1 but not to the same degree that HGH does. Steroids primarily work at the androgen receptor, while HGH works on a totally different pathway. That’s why they work so well together. Multiple pathways = more growth.

Yep.

Steroids (may not all) cause it thru an increase in Estrogen, which increases IGF-1.

 

[dfresh333]

Gives good results without jacking up my liver values, cholesterol and blood pressure ( when used at reasonable doses). It's pretty simple to understand why someone would take a drug that gives desired results with minimal costs compared to alternatives.

 

[OldManLogan]

I’m just saying there has to be something to it that I don’t see for guys to abuse the shit outta the stuff and pay a small fortune. Take some time to google before and afters of some pro bodybuilders and look at the difference in their facial and head appearance. Thats years of massive GH doses. But why?

Go read Kurt Havens’ “The Science of HGH “ if you want specifics and a nice deep dive.

Science of HGH — atomic life

E-book about HGH for performance enhancement, scientifically backed information on HGH and the background science.

www.atomiclifecoaching.com

Pretty solid work.

 

[Cinder]

Makes your head and face huge.

Lol but really It's no coincidence that the biggest dudes use hgh while some of these high dosage steroid users looks sloppy and under developed.
Even the dude on high AAS and 5iu hgh is way more muscular in comparison to a guy using only high AAS.
I know several AAS abusers that looked meh before using hgh.

But as I said above, the face and head thing isnt worth it for me. Y'all have some big ass heads/faced, and don't even realize it. When these pros get smaller, their head looks like a fat guy that is a year post bypass surgery.
I'll stockpile sero kits but I won't use them. I have some igf1 that's supposed to be identical to increlex but again I'm nervous of a big head/face. I won't use it.

 

[FuzzyFella]

Boost IGF, synergistic with AAS

Helps burn fat, synergistic with AAS

I agree that that science isnt quite there, but it's barely there on many BB topics, as the "research" we do doesnt apply to normal people much, and vice versa. Most data on HGH is for deficient people or people with HIV or cancer, which isnt helpful to juiced up healthy hefty boys

Much like the studies on anemic children on Anadrol don't help anyone here in any real way

Theres also very little human data on tren compared to test, but that doesnt stop anyone here from knowing it's even more powerful for cutting especially

 

[Disqualified]

I’m surprised no one has mentioned inducing Hyperplasia, which ultimately would be one of the most beneficial results in the bodybuilding community.

Unfortunately, hyperplasia has been found to be at 6mg/18iu (ref. Kurt Haven)(without the addition of AAS).
This dosage may be less when used in synergy of AAS, however there are no studies & likely will never be any studies to determine this.

It does work. Daily changes. Nothing like it that I’ve had my hands on.

 

[Flocci]

Unfortunately, hyperplasia has been found to be at 6mg/18iu (ref. Kurt Haven)(without the addition of AAS).
This dosage may be less when used in synergy of AAS, however there are no studies & likely will never be any studies to determine this.

supposedly.


I dont think we have ever seen any evidence or legitimate proof of this or any dosage where hyperplasia have been proven in humans like that. As far as i know, its just broscience at this point.

please prove me wrong though.

 

[mexbeast]

supposedly.


I dont think we have ever seen any evidence or legitimate proof of this or any dosage where hyperplasia have been proven in humans like that. As far as i know, its just broscience at this point.

please prove me wrong though.

Exactly what i was thinking, you could do a biopsy to try and find out! I have never heard of anyone doing it.