What is your test-less cycle looks like for those who cycle without test/little test?

[Ocean cool]

We always hear that test is king. But nowadays many are cycling with no to little test. Especially in the middle-east. Even arnold did no test from what i read.

For those who cycle without test, what does your cycle looks like for someone who is looking for lean bulk gain?

Thanks guys.

 

[Sion]

250mg-350 test only, sometimes less (bloat and fucks my nipples even low dose of test so i dont put more and even with this need ais and serm) with primo as base 400-500 mg for 16 weeks. first 4 weeks i use dbol (low dose also 15-20mg) and last 4-5 tbol(40-60). lean gains never much bulking but im just looking for that extra edge and motivation and i feel good during cycle and pcts are smooth.

 

[Medic08]

Middle East no test? I believe it's the other way around. Really large amounts of pharm grade test. No way those guys are getting that big with little to no test.

 

[blaze918]

Interesting thread.

I'm using 150 mg test E with 400 mg Tren E, first time running tren so didn't want to get crazy with the dosing until I see how my body reacts to it. One of my buddies saw amazing results running 200 mg Test + 1000mg Primo - I'd love to try it but it's way to pricey for me.

 

[Archer]

I ran tren at 600 with test at 100 and then test at 1g....definately better off low...and later found out the test was under dosed the time I ran it at 100, so virtually was a "no test" cycle AFAIC, and I really liked it, pretty much doing tren only.


Also ran test at 2g and virtually no additional sides, except a raspier voice and urge to clear my throat constantly....very good dosage for lean gains IMO

 

[TrinityD]

You can try this for a tren-less cycle without test assuming you want to actually become a ...large person, lol.

2k deca/week(12-16 weeks)
1k eq/week(12-16 weeks)
400 mast/week(12-16 weeks)
100 drol/day(6-8on/6off)
50 dbol/day(6-8on/6off)
200 test/week TRT
GH @ what you can afford/want to use
Insulin @ your own discretion....
PEPS @ your own discretion...