As the title implies, what? Is it never missing meals, workouts or shots? Eating "clean" 24/7 365? Seems like many get frowned upon for using x amount of gear if they don't compete. Well does a plastic trophy really justify it? Are you not "hardcore" enough if you're just an average gym rat and don't compete? Another thing is diet, are you not disciplined if you eat as you wish(while at least hitting protein macros)? IMO for what it's worth, I think if you're hitting the gym on a steady basis and going outta your way to get extra protein, getting shots in each day/week, then that's pretty disciplined. Sorry, just thinking about this so I posted a thread lol. Would love to hear from some of the vets here