what would you do?

[Creation]

well boys that time came to get checked up after pct and its not looking good... still waiting on the free testosterone result to come back...

should i try and get some HG clomid and do another 3-4 weeks of clomid or just ride it out?(i used research clomid but that shit always seem questionable )

ive been feeling off lately but i just thought it was stress...


TESTOSTERONE, SERUM 80 348 - 1197 ng/dL <---ouch


GLUCOSE, SERUM 81 65 - 99 mg/dL
BUN 27 6 - 20 mg/dL
CREATININE, SERUM 1.29 0.76 - 1.27 mg/dL
EGFR IF NONAFRICN AM 78 >59 mL/min/1.73
EGFR IF AFRICN AM 90 >59 mL/min/1.73
BUN/CREATININE RATIO 21 8 - 19
SODIUM, SERUM 143 134 - 144 mmol/L
POTASSIUM, SERUM 4.2 3.5 - 5.2 mmol/L
CHLORIDE, SERUM 107 97 - 108 mmol/L
CARBON DIOXIDE, TOTAL 22 20 - 32 mmol/L
CALCIUM, SERUM 9.6 8.7 - 10.2 mg/dL
PROTEIN, TOTAL, SERUM 6.9 6.0 - 8.5 g/dL
ALBUMIN, SERUM 4.4 3.5 - 5.5 g/dL
GLOBULIN, TOTAL 2.5 1.5 - 4.5 g/dL
A/G RATIO 1.8 1.1 - 2.5
BILIRUBIN, TOTAL 0.6 0.0 - 1.2 mg/dL
ALKALINE PHOSPHATASE, SERUM 66 25 - 150 IU/L
AST (SGOT) 23 0 - 40 IU/L
ALT (SGPT) 36 0 - 55 IU/L
TSH 3.200 0.450 - 4.500 uIU/mL
WHITE BLOOD CELL (WBC) COUNT 4.4 4.0 - 10.5 x10E3/uL
RED BLOOD CELL (RBC) COUNT 5.55 4.10 - 5.60 x10E6/uL
HEMOGLOBIN 16.2 12.5 - 17.0 g/dL
HEMATOCRIT 47.6 36.0 - 50.0 %
MCV 86 80 - 98 fL
MCH 29.2 27.0 - 34.0 pg
MCHC 34.0 32.0 - 36.0 g/dL
RDW 17.4 11.7 - 15.0 %
PLATELETS 250 140 - 415 x10E3/uL
NEUTROPHILS 51 40 - 74 %
LYMPHS 34 14 - 46 %
MONOCYTES 11 4 - 13 %
EOS 3 0 - 7 %
BASOS 1 0 - 3 %
IMMATURE CELLS
NEUTROPHILS (ABSOLUTE) 2.3 1.8 - 7.8 x10E3/uL
LYMPHS (ABSOLUTE) 1.5 0.7 - 4.5 x10E3/uL
MONOCYTES(ABSOLUTE) 0.5 0.1 - 1.0 x10E3/uL
EOS (ABSOLUTE) 0.1 0.0 - 0.4 x10E3/uL
BASO (ABSOLUTE) 0.0 0.0 - 0.2 x10E3/uL
IMMATURE GRANULOCYTES 0 0 - 2 %
IMMATURE GRANS (ABS) 0.0 0.0 - 0.1 x10E3/uL
NRBC
HEMATOLOGY COMMENTS:

 

[Cerberus777]

How old are you? Who's clomid did you use? What was you pct?

 

[Creation]

24

Used manpower 100/50/50 and Nola at 20

 

[Cerberus777]

3 weeks isn't that long. I would do 100,50,50,25,25 with aromastin when you start the 25mg week.

Next test get LH and estrogen tested

 

[Creation]

free test

FREE TESTOSTERONE(DIRECT) 3.8 9.3 - 26.5 pg/mL

 

[Cerberus777]

That's low. But at 24 I would try to restart if I could.

 

[chgolatin2]

Curious, you're 24 yrs old and on TRT? Don't get it :banghead: you should be at your peak level! But if you messing w your body by injecting high doses of test your body shuts down and stops producing naturally therefor you need HCG to jump start your balls into high gear.


Clomid, HCG should do the trick but HCG is a major MUST!

 

[Creation]

I used hcg throughout cycle(250iu e3d) then clomid/nolv for pct

Im going to my internal medicine dr on tuesday I guess well see what he wants to do.

on a side note I wish I would have gone with HG clomid to know it's legit.

 

[Creation]

update

Went to my GP to have him review my test results and he was blown away at my lvls even with what ive taken.

Hes rechecking total test, free test, LH, FSH, Estradiol, and Prolactin

a part of me wants to go on TRT but I def want kids later in life...

Ill update again when I hear back from the doc

wish me luck bros

 

[VFW]

Went to my GP to have him review my test results and he was blown away at my lvls even with what ive taken.

Hes rechecking total test, free test, LH, FSH, Estradiol, and Prolactin

a part of me wants to go on TRT but I def want kids later in life...

Ill update again when I hear back from the doc

wish me luck bros

Kids may not happen if you dont get that level up anyhow, which of course can be determined with other tests, good luck to you man!

 

[Marine0811]

Try do kick start your natural test, im 40 and have been on TRT for 5 years. It sucks. Yea it comes with being a middle age bastard, but you are young bro, do what you can with out going on TRT. Best of luck to you

 

[klimentiy]

Curious, you're 24 yrs old and on TRT? Don't get it :banghead: you should be at your peak level! But if you messing w your body by injecting high doses of test your body shuts down and stops producing naturally therefor you need HCG to jump start your balls into high gear.


Clomid, HCG should do the trick but HCG is a major MUST!

good advice, here is what i would do:

1-5 hcg 500 iu's weekly split in 2 shots
1-5 nolva 40mg
6-9 nolva 20mg

then go get LH, FSH, estro, testo tested

 

[Creation]

Got results my gp

Lh, fsh etc are all in normal ranges
Total test was 160.. Double what it was but still low.. I was
Hoping he would
Take care of me but he wants
Me to go to endo. So I found an endo with speciality in andrology . Hopefully he'll get me running without trt

 

[hackskii]

How long was your cycle for?
What was the compounds and doses?


That is not enough HCG to keep and maintain testicular function.

I would use some HCG, clomid and nolva myself.
and enough HCG to fire your balls now, and I bet you would feel better too.

 

[Creation]

update

went to endo. he is retesting everything again and gave me a rx to clomid at half-tab eod and go back in 6 weeks

ill post test results when I get them

 

[Creation]

results

FSH 5.5 1.5 - 12.4 mIU/mL
LH 4.4 1.7 - 8.6 mIU/mL
FREE TESTOSTERONE(DIRECT) 6.7 9.3 - 26.5 pg/mL
TESTOSTERONE, SERUM 276 348 - 1197 ng/dL
ESTRADIOL 16.9 7.6 - 42.6 pg/mL
PROLACTIN 8.8 4.0 - 15.2 ng/mL
IRON BIND.CAP.(TIBC) 340 250 - 450 ug/dL
UIBC 235 150 - 375 ug/dL
IRON, SERUM 105 40 - 155 ug/dL
IRON SATURATION 31 15 - 55 %
FERRITIN, SERUM 139 30 - 400 ng/mL
CORTISOL - AM 11.3 6.2 - 19.4 ug/dL
INSULIN-LIKE GROWTH FACTOR I 330 116 - 358 ng/mL
CHOLESTEROL, TOTAL 185 100 - 199 mg/dL
TRIGLYCERIDES 69 0 - 149 mg/dL
HDL CHOLESTEROL 41 >39 mg/dL
VLDL CHOLESTEROL CAL 14 5 - 40 mg/dL
LDL CHOLESTEROL CALC 130 0 - 99 mg/dL
VITAMIN D, 25-HYDROXY 38.7 30.0 - 100.0 ng/mL
VITAMIN B12 740 211 - 946 pg/mL



Endo prescribed me 25mg clomid eod

 

[hackskii]

For how low your testosterone is, your estrogen to testosterone looks off to me.

Why so much aromitization?
Do you have a higher percentage of bellyfat/bodyfat?