whats everone think about doing it this way?

[2BIGFRED]

I do DC type cycles 4-8 weeks blast then 2-3 weeks crusing with low dose test hcg and the other goodies.My question is do you think It would be best to run a Swale type hcg program with this and do 500ius of hcg even during the blasting phase of the cycle?Ive jut been researching it a lot and figured it might be better but wanted to hear some others views on it.

BY the way Im new to this board but ive been a memeber at another board for a while now and figured I would also become a memeber here for anyone who goes to anabolex they have probally seen me over there.So I would like to say hey to everyone and that this seems like a good board.

 

[xcelbeyond]

Welcome!

I think a lot depends on what you expect from the cruise. Your HPTA will still be shut down during a cruise. I don't believe in using hcg during PCT anyways as it just prevents/delays recovery. I believe that using it every 4 weeks during cycle and at the end of cycle is best.

I also cycle this way.

 

[2BIGFRED]

Yeah Ive been reading the board and I agree with what BIG A says about just stay on if bloodwork is ok everytime.I compete and I always stay on test usually with EQ or something like that with fina thrown in every now and then.I never do any orals except clen occasianily.I was just crusing Dc style every so often with clomid and the other stuff.But i think ill try what BIG A says for a while.I was thinking of doing the hcg for 7-10 days every week at 500ius a day.Ive not got any experience with Hcg and just recently got some.Mine is 2000iu amps.I would like to make it 1000iu a cc so that means ill need to add 2ccs of bac. water to the amp is this correct?

If anyone thinks I should do the hcg different every 4 weeks let me know since Im not sure how to do it.Its funny Ive been using steroids for a while but always stayed clear from hcg.My uncle is an old school bber and he said dont do hcg it hurts your gains.Well I listened and I wish I wouldnt have.Which back then my cycles were not that big so it probally didnt matter.

 

[xcelbeyond]

Mine is 2000iu amps.I would like to make it 1000iu a cc so that means ill need to add 2ccs of bac. water to the amp is this correct?

Yes

Make sure you get a new steril vial - I'm guessing the vial it came with isn't large enough.

 

[2BIGFRED]

do you think it would be best to shoot 500ius a day for 7-10 every 4 weeks?

 

[xcelbeyond]

That's good.

I do 1,000iu ED for 5 days every 4 weeks.

 

[2BIGFRED]

That's good.

I do 1,000iu ED for 5 days every 4 weeks.

I belive ill try it your way becuase that would make it easier to shoot my hcg since its 2000iu amps.ill just fill 2 insulin syringes half up that way its 1000ius and shoot that ed for the 5 days as you suggested.i know ill need to fill more then 2 up but im using this as my example

 

[xcelbeyond]

I do it it with 25g IM, not sub-q. I understand that it can be done sub-q, but I'm sensitive to a lot of different stuff that's taken sub-q.

 

[2BIGFRED]

I do it it with 25g IM, not sub-q. I understand that it can be done sub-q, but I'm sensitive to a lot of different stuff that's taken sub-q.

Ill try it sub q then if it bothers me then ill switch to IM.IM just curious you said you do your hcg every 4 weeks.how long do you stay on before you cycle off.I know you compete ive seen you post at the other board im a member of.At least i think it was you, it was the same user name.

 

[drgoodbody]

I've run it both ways, once every 4 weeks, and also Swale style, couple 500IU shots every week. Have to say I think Swale style works better for me. When I'm on and my hpta is shut down hard my dick isnt very cooperative (easy to get hard, tough to cum), and with Swale's approach my body was more like normal. Wifey appreciated me not wearing her out trying cum, lol. So I vote for the Swale approach.

DrG

 

[2BIGFRED]

I've run it both ways, once every 4 weeks, and also Swale style, couple 500IU shots every week. Have to say I think Swale style works better for me. When I'm on and my hpta is shut down hard my dick isnt very cooperative (easy to get hard, tough to cum), and with Swale's approach my body was more like normal. Wifey appreciated me not wearing her out trying cum, lol. So I vote for the Swale approach.

DrG

II have to agree it is hard to cum sometimes.My wife also gets a little frusrated about it.but i stay on test bacically all year so would swales approach still be alright for me?
ILL try once every 4 weeks first then swales if it alright to do and let you all know what works best.

 

[xcelbeyond]

ILL try once every 4 weeks first then swales if it alright to do and let you all know what works best.

My last cycle was about 16 weeks. Prior to that, I was 4 on - 3 cruise. Both cycles: last 5 days of a 4-week period, I use 1,000iu ED (5,000iu every 4 weeks)

 

[2BIGFRED]

My last cycle was about 16 weeks. Prior to that, I was 4 on - 3 cruise. Both cycles: last 5 days of a 4-week period, I use 1,000iu ED (5,000iu every 4 weeks)

thanks for your help bro!im going to take some hcg tonight before bed.if i do 5 days ill still have 1000ius left over from an amp will it stay good in the fridge until the next 4 weeks.i think its stable for 60 days but im just making sure.

so your not staying on all the time like i thought are you?See i remember when you said in a thread you was doing 4 on 3 cruise.but you said your last cycle was 16 weeks.

 

[xcelbeyond]

so your not staying on all the time like i thought are you?See i remember when you said in a thread you was doing 4 on 3 cruise.but you said your last cycle was 16 weeks.

You're never 2big, Fred

Hcg will keep in fridge for 4 weeks, no problems. 8 weeks is pushing it, but should be OK - but no longer.

I'm a real stickler about water-based "anything" - afraid of water-borne bacteria. I just say if you "store it," make sure it is in bacteriostatic water (BA). I believe the water that comes with some hcg is just sterile water.

 

[2BIGFRED]

You're never 2big, Fred

Hcg will keep in fridge for 4 weeks, no problems. 8 weeks is pushing it, but should be OK - but no longer.

I'm a real stickler about water-based "anything" - afraid of water-borne bacteria. I just say if you "store it," make sure it is in bacteriostatic water (BA). I believe the water that comes with some hcg is just sterile water.

Hey I wanted you to know I really appreciate your help Bro!!

 

[cryptasm]

I do DC type cycles 4-8 weeks blast then 2-3 weeks crusing with low dose test hcg and the other goodies.My question is do you think It would be best to run a Swale type hcg program with this and do 500ius of hcg even during the blasting phase of the cycle?Ive jut been researching it a lot and figured it might be better but wanted to hear some others views on it.

BY the way Im new to this board but ive been a memeber at another board for a while now and figured I would also become a memeber here for anyone who goes to anabolex they have probally seen me over there.So I would like to say hey to everyone and that this seems like a good board.

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