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Whats the main reason for huge guys now compared to the 80`s?

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Is it higher AAS doses? Slin? HGH?

Which one is mostly responsible?

I would say guys in the 80`s used high AAS, no different to now really so I guess thats discounted.

So it is down to slin and HGH? That combo alone will add 30lb to ones stage weight?

Or is it mainly the 60-80iu per day of slin we see some people report that is the key reason?
 
Is it higher AAS doses? Slin? HGH?

Which one is mostly responsible?

I would say guys in the 80`s used high AAS, no different to now really so I guess thats discounted.

So it is down to slin and HGH? That combo alone will add 30lb to ones stage weight?

Or is it mainly the 60-80iu per day of slin we see some people report that is the key reason?

I almost choked on my water on that comment. You now have local gym rats taking much as pros back then. :cool:
 
It isn't just that. Guys are abusing everything now a days.

The genetic pool is a a lot larger as well. Also, about guys in the 80's, I heard from a friend of a friend who once trained with Frank Zane back in the late 80's early 90's, back then Zane would charge you a hefty fee and you could come out to his pad and train with him and he would consult you on nutrition and posing, all that crap. So anyways, eventually Zane disclosed how much he used, and well could have been a lie lol but wow really opened my eyes to the genetics that Zane had let me tell you and really about the genetics of all elite bodybuilders.
 
GH +
Slin +
Offseasons devoted to pure mass gains +
Judging standards rewarding sheer size over taper and tight abdomens.

Look at the guys who mutated after going pro: Dorian, Ronnie, Jay, etc. The formula is known and I don't think anyone seriously disputes it at this point.

AAS were in popular use from the 1970's forward and if you think no one fucked with stupid dosages back then or decided to never come off...

Dosages have risen from the recreational level on up since those days, but I am betting they peaked in the 1990's with the discovery that AAS + GH + Slin doesn't require raw AAS dosages to be massive to produce amazing results.

Gymrats with crap genetics and w/o the cash for pharma GH will continue to add grams/week thinking this is the magic trick, but I don't know if that trend is reflected at the elite level these days.
 
Social media, cell phones and the need for constant re-affirmation and dick swinging have probably done more for bodybuilding than all the drugs available on this site.
 
It isn't just that. Guys are abusing everything now a days.

That's exactly right. 3 vials a day of GH, 50+iu slin, never coming off, and a gram a day + of AAS is what makes these mass monsters. Plus, a whole slew of peptide, IGF, etc.
 
I think it's just a matter of guys using more gear nowadays. Slin is obviously a big factor, too.
 
Why does everyone blame it on the drugs I mean yeah they are a contributing factor but we also need to look at the advancements in training, nutrition and supplementation. I mean look at some natural bodybuilders these days you can't tell me with everything we've learned over the years with just these three elements has not made some pretty significant changes as well.
 
Kevin Levrone only took 600 mg Test, 400 mg Deca and 150 mg Drol, six to eight weeks before the competition. Okay ... Slin and GH just wasn't around in the eighties. I think the super high doses of test (more than 3 grams) also adds to the bloated look of today. This sport had its chance ... when guys like Lebrada and Paris get passed over for the mass monster bodybuilders, you know which direction this sport has choosen.
 
What is making more and more of them die before they reach 50 anyway? Mat Duvall, Nasser El Sonbaty, Erik Fromm, Art Atwood and countless more died who were competing in the 2000s.
 
Whats the main reason for huge guys now compared to the 80`s?

The tremendous amount of horrible 'advice' available thanks to the wonderful internet....
 
Test being used as a base!!A good amount too.4g-5grams a week just in the base
 

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