what's the strongest painkiller around?

[eatcrow]

is it vicodin?

 

[Dave_19]

oxycontin. as far as pills go atleast.

 

[jerrywear]

why you need pain killers for?

 

[eatcrow]

Wrist injury... I've been told to to do press-ups on my knuckles to build the tendons around my wrist but the pains unbearable at times.

 

[Dave_19]

Wrist injury... I've been told to to do press-ups on my knuckles to build the tendons around my wrist but the pains unbearable at times.

pain killers can inhibit your gains.. I would take motrin 800mg 3x a day, and plain vicodin is enough to manage your pain, masking the pain to exercise doesn't seem like a good idea.

 

[AWN2004]

Dilaudid mg per mg blows Oxcontin out of the water. That stuff at 2mg knocked me out big time. I threw the rest of them in the trash because they were so strong. I had a fracture in my ulna and it hurt (the pain was unbareable at one point) to even grab something off the table so my doc gave me those instead of Vics or Oxyfast....bad move in my opinion. They are way too addictive..but that also depends on the person I suppose. Nubain is also pretty strong as well but any of these opiate based drugs can be HIGHLY addictive...everybody knows that anyway. Use caution and common sense.

 

[Snarf]

Well, if you want the most potent, medically available pain killer it is a substance called fentanyl. It is a synthetic optiate that is usally adminstered throught a transdermal patch, or through an epidural or intrathecally.

It is so potent, an amount that fits on a pin head would kill you.

But to answer you question, opiates, like Vicoden, Oxycontin, Dilaudid and others mentioned are not recommended for managing your type of pain. They can be used post-op or post-procedure to manage acute pain as you heal, but you should not depend on them to help you excercise. I think the Motrin/Advil/ibuprofen or any NSAID would be a better way to go. These also help manage inflammation.

Sorry you are in pain, but you don't want to add an opiate addiction to your sore wrist problem. PM me if you want more details. I have some experience in pain management and related drugs.

 

[eatcrow]

pain killers can inhibit your gains..

Thats what I thought, but I guess it might come in handy when I'm stretching.

 

[tarbaby2000]

I think snarf is on the right page with this. Your type of pain is best NOT handled with narcotics or benzos. They are great for acute pain that is continuous but are also highly addictive and will screw up your workouts worse than the pain itself. I would also recomend advil or motrin, but your best bet is probably a cox-2 inhibitor. I personally prefer Bextra in the prescription category. I tore some tendons and ruptured a disk in my lower back and was in constant pain and it worked wonders. I've also tried vioxx(which is now off the market) and celebrex and didnt do as much for me,but were still good.
As far as over the counter Ibuprofen is good, just up the recommended dosage to 600-800mg, which is the dosage per tablet given with the more concentrated prescription version. IB and bextra are great for pain and also have anti-inflammatory properites, which might aid in your wrist pain, depending on the particular injury. It might help to know a little more about what is actually wrong with it. =tar

 

[BrooklynJuice]

Not much pain felt on heroin

Dying soldiers are given morphine for good reason, its basically mercy cause with enough morphine it wont matter if your guts are a few feet from you.

There a lil froggy bastard hopping around south america that has an opiate secreting skin. 1000x more potent than morphine

1mg will kill you faster than instantanous. Native americans used to dip there arrow heads in this stuff, as they could know down a dinosaur with that shit.

But reasonably hydrocodone or oxycodone (vikes n percs) are not too overboard for pain as you described. Can be habit forming real quick and that turns into a real mess.

 

[Phrmdude]

There a lil froggy bastard hopping around south america that has an opiate secreting skin. 1000x more potent than morphine

Not to nit pick, but the frog does not secret an opiate, although it can be used to treat pain, similar to a specific sea snail which secretes very bad alkaloid shit.

Anyway, natrual opiates only come from poppies. Although plenty of synthetics are now used (oxycodone, methadone, fentanyl, hydromorphone, etc)

Also, the only real advantage of a Cox-II inhibitor is that it is not as hard on your gastrointestinal tract as other NSAIDS. Compared to properly dosed ibuprofen or naproxen sodium (Aleve), they do not offer any better pain releif, but they do not cuase as much nausea, stomach ulcers/bleeding, etc. If you are not prone to GI upset when on NSAIDS, I would not take a Cox-II. They were designed for osteoarthritic patients who needed to be on them chronically.

 

[BrooklynJuice]

opioid, excuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuse me...

The dermorphins (most are potent mu agonists) and deltorphins (most
are potent delta agonists) were originally isolated from alcoholic
extracts of the skin secretions of certain species of rare frogs (some
of the 'poison arrow'-type frogs in Ecuador?) found in South America
by a group of Italian researchers, which include some of the authors
mentioned in the abstract. Some of the natural peptides are somewhat
unique in vertebrates, as they contain a D-amino acid in the
2-position, which gives them resistence to many endogenous proteases,
thus endowing them with longer T1/2's. It's also interesting that the
(frog) gene for these peptides codes for the L-amino acid, and it's
apparently enzymatically converted to a D-amino acid during or after
translation. There is also some evidence (immunochemical) that a
related peptide is also produced in low quantities in mammalian brain
(rat). Numerous synthetic modified peptides have also been studied,
leading to some extremely potent analogs.
-Randall Braun, MS Pharmacology, specialty area: opioids & opioid
receptors; drugs of abuse.

 

[MikeS]

Demerol is stronger than Oxys, dose for dose wise (maybe not mg for mg). And yes Diluadid is the strongest-its a junkies substitute for heroin.
Drugs like this are for losers or cancer paitents. I ruined my adolescence
with them-so I have a strong opinion. Thank god I had weights and BBing to
turn to to help me quit heroin and Diluadids at age 21.

 

[eatcrow]

If I had to choose between Vicodin and oxycontin... which one should I go for?

 

[Snarf]

If I had to choose between Vicodin and oxycontin... which one should I go for?

For what? Aren't you the guy that had the sinus trouble and was looking for the strongest decongestant. Now you want the strongest pain killer?

How about this: go see your doctor and take whatever he prescribes. Sorry to be harsh, but opiates are nothing to play with.

 

[Fullybuilt]

NUBAIN

 

[leapfrog]

not that i care what you do but,it's a fact that if vic's work for you then oxy's usually don't and vice versa.now if you want to travel down that path head the warning of all .yes it can help you but it is very attictive and has ruined and killed many people.so i would think long and hard before walking that gauntlet

leap

 

[eatcrow]

For what? Aren't you the guy that had the sinus trouble and was looking for the strongest decongestant. Now you want the strongest pain killer?

How about this: go see your doctor and take whatever he prescribes. Sorry to be harsh, but opiates are nothing to play with.

Not too sound rude but I couldnt care less... You dont know my situation because I havent decided to tell you yet (theres more to it). Steroids arent nothing to play with either and I'm not even a roid user.

 

[Rogue]

Dilaudid

Hydromorphe... or Dilaudid as it is know in the US is the strongest. Be carefull whatever you decide to do.

 

[Homer]

Twenty plus years of heavy weights have left me with painful degenerative disc disease in my thoracic spine for which I take narcotics daily under a MDs care. I was very anxious to get to the strongest pain relievers availible to put out the pain. Be careful what you ask for. In hindsight I wish I would have pursued other therapies first. You get a lot of extra issues with medication management utilizing narcotics and the temptation is great to take more than necessary to relieve your pain.
Going to oxycodone straight before other treatments is like using 4 tabs of Anadrol a day for your first cycle.
Hydromorphone (dilaudid) orally is weaker than oxy in most people's assesment. IV it is very strong but you will not get a script for that. Demerol orally is the same and is seldom persrcibed due to other issues.
Do your self a favor and use the anti-inflamatories and put up with the pain that's left over.