Which nationality is most extreme with gear

[traininsane11]

Bit of a fun question for those who coach people of high levels from different parts of the world or anyone with experience personal or otherwise

How do the drug protocols and general outlook/practices vary country to country

For example

Uk - for some time have been caught up in the high mast/primo and low test

Eastern European - much higher protein diets than the UK and USA guys for the most part and higher test

USA - quite big on cheat meals

Brazil - apparently heavy on diuretics

Russia - all round crazy mofo’s

Random I know but just to give the jist of an idea for a thread

 

[Alzadosghost]

Fun post?

 

[traininsane11]

Fun post?

Well it can be if people want to contribute their related findings and experience

Or probably not if people just give smart ass responses

 

[slesh]

Middle Eastern

 

[xyz14]

I would guess that in countries where knowing good English is rare people are mostly doing stupid shit.
Czech rep is a great example for this.
I.e one pretty famous strongman swears that arimidex is a great prewo for aggression.

I could go on days about stuff like this.

Most people think sustanon is a completely different compound than test and adding it to a cycle means you're being synergistic aka 1+1=3
Orals? They will wreck your liver unless you take fucking silymarin. Then you can run them for months! Oh and what is cholesterol?
Peak week? Take aldactone, diazye(moduretic), lasix and taper water and potatoes.

Blast and cruise? That's crazy you should get off to refresh your receptors.

Back then we had one gear forum but guys behind it got busted, since then you basically have to know English or know someone who does and isn't a retard.

Bit OT i know but i kinda had to vent lol.

 

[traininsane11]

Middle Eastern

Good call I remember a lot of mystery and rumours in the early Ramy days. Probably most disproven but people were convinced they had magic drugs

 

[traininsane11]

I would guess that in countries where knowing good English is rare people are mostly doing stupid shit.
Czech rep is a great example for this.
I.e one pretty famous strongman swears that arimidex is a great prewo for aggression.

I could go on days about stuff like this.

Most people think sustanon is a completely different compound than test and adding it to a cycle means you're being synergistic aka 1+1=3
Orals? They will wreck your liver unless you take fucking silymarin. Then you can run them for months! Oh and what is cholesterol?
Peak week? Take aldactone, diazye(moduretic), lasix and taper water and potatoes.

Blast and cruise? That's crazy you should get off to refresh your receptors.

Back then we had one gear forum but guys behind it got busted, since then you basically have to know English or know someone who does and isn't a retard.

Bit OT i know but i kinda had to vent lol.

This is actually a very good point. Being an only English speaker I’ve never considered the amount of info in this regard maybe massively reduced for those that don’t speak English or where countries don’t really have much of a BB culture

 

[slesh]

Good call I remember a lot of mystery and rumours in the early Ramy days. Probably most disproven but people were convinced they had magic drugs

Bodybuilding is kinda like the equivalent of the Olympics in countries like Iran, Kuwait, Egypt, etc. These guys are supported by the government. Major national pride for them.

 

[qbkilla]

Good thread. I know I've read the uk muscle forum, knowledge and training content seem on par with most US forums, not as advanced as here.

Recall a guy buselmo used to post about practices in the middle east gear and training, wish I could find the posts was very entertaining.

Seems like from what I've seen Australia is big on aesthetics over size not a bad thing. I think they are inspired by that kid that od in rec drugs and died in a tanning bed lol

Seems like I've seen online that Brazil is big into the SEO look and alot of it

 

[traininsane11]

Bodybuilding is kinda like the equivalent of the Olympics in countries like Iran, Kuwait, Egypt, etc. These guys are supported by the government. Major national pride for them.

This is true I remember I think it was in one of the generation iron movies they mentioned Ramy and Hadi were treated like superstars when in their home country both in respect and financial backing which must be extremely motivational

 

[traininsane11]

Good thread. I know I've read the uk muscle forum, knowledge and training content seem on par with most US forums, not as advanced as here.

Recall a guy buselmo used to post about practices in the middle east gear and training, wish I could find the posts was very entertaining.

Seems like from what I've seen Australia is big on aesthetics over size not a bad thing. I think they are inspired by that kid that od in rec drugs and died in a tanning bed lol

Seems like I've seen online that Brazil is big into the SEO look and alot of it

Sadly the UK forums have gone to shit just filled with kids and people who just buy gear off their mate Dave from the pub (bar) but going back 10+ years they used to be decent and filled with most of the top amateurs in the UK

I imagine the guys who have the potential in the Middle East will have a decent backing which I imagine is handy but also very pressurised you either do XYZ and “make it” or you’re off the team. Just a number (I could be wrong)

Ahh Zyzz yeah he was the first viral guy that I recall but then of course you’ve got Lee priest and the questionable calumn von moger.
From what I’ve heard it can still be hard to source decent gear in Aus

Yeah SEO in Brazil seems to be massive especially with the BBL

 

[PRorER]

Bodybuilding is kinda like the equivalent of the Olympics in countries like Iran, Kuwait, Egypt, etc. These guys are supported by the government. Major national pride for them.

Didn’t they build a statue for big Ramy after he won? It’s awesome to see bodybuilding receiving national attention, especially considering what some of these open guys take to get to that level

 

[Heath82]

Those South American women push doses equivalent or more than a lot of men from what I’ve heard

 

[Blueballs]

Good thread. I know I've read the uk muscle forum, knowledge and training content seem on par with most US forums, not as advanced as here.

Recall a guy buselmo used to post about practices in the middle east gear and training, wish I could find the posts was very entertaining.

Seems like from what I've seen Australia is big on aesthetics over size not a bad thing. I think they are inspired by that kid that od in rec drugs and died in a tanning bed lol

Seems like I've seen online that Brazil is big into the SEO look and alot of it

Ukmuscle is a mile behind pretty much every forum out there irrespective of country. Zero competitors on there and the general consensus is that anything over 1g is a HUGE cycle limited to only the most die-hard of ifbb pros!!
Luckily the forum counts for a miniscule percentage of the bb population where high test/19nor cycles have never been out of trend.
Ukmuscle is not just limited to gear retards either who think low test, high primo is the way to bb success. The training side of the forum also advocates single arm pull downs and cuffed side laterals, so draw your own conclusions.

 

[traininsane11]

Ukmuscle is a mile behind pretty much every forum out there irrespective of country. Zero competitors on there and the general consensus is that anything over 1g is a HUGE cycle limited to only the most die-hard of ifbb pros!!
Luckily the forum counts for a miniscule percentage of the bb population where high test/19nor cycles have never been out of trend.
Ukmuscle is not just limited to gear retards either who think low test, high primo is the way to bb success. The training side of the forum also advocates single arm pull downs and cuffed side laterals, so draw your own conclusions.

Nailed it just a forum of retards and board sponsors pushing labs on said retards

 

[bbxtreme]

I am not sure it’s really a nationality thing as much as it is an individual risk tolerance thing IMO.

You can find guys here in the US who blast 10g of gear, 100iu of lantus, humalog, and use three diuretics including lasix before a show just as easy as you can in other countries.

I do think the US has put “more” emphasis on bloodwork, screening and health for bodybuilders than other countries as things are very accessible here now.

I do agree with @slesh on Iran though. Every person from Iran will know who Hadi is, but have no clue who Derek or CBUM is. I was educated on Hadi from my Barber. She knew far more about him than I ever would have.

 

[Blueballs]

Nailed it just a forum of retards and board sponsors pushing labs on said retards

Fucking shit house mate. Cunts more interested in the next magic bean lab that’s gonna shoot them to bb stardom as opposed to loading a bar with 8 plates and squatting so deep you drizzled discharge down your inner thighs due to a prolapsed rectum.
The ukm crew are about as hardcore as my penis having been off try for just weeks…..ie like playing snooker with a length of rope.

 

[Blueballs]

I am not sure it’s really a nationality thing as much as it is an individual risk tolerance thing IMO.

You can find guys here in the US who blast 10g of gear, 100iu of lantus, humalog, and use three diuretics including lasix before a show just as easy as you can in other countries.

I do think the US has put “more” emphasis on bloodwork, screening and health for bodybuilders than other countries as things are very accessible here now.

I do agree with @slesh on Iran though. Every person from Iran will know who Hadi is, but have no clue who Derek or CBUM is. I was educated on Hadi from my Barber. She knew far more about him than I ever would have.

Well come on then broski. Share the beans……we’re all fooking waiting on the edges of our seats (and obviously not for diet and training stories!)

 

[hostin90]

Brother of mine from Mexico drinks bottles of aromasin like beer

 

[bbxtreme]

Well come on then broski. Share the beans……we’re all fooking waiting on the edges of our seats (and obviously not for diet and training stories!)
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Oh she didn’t talk gear. What I did learn is that Hadi is a huge activist in Iran and has very strong outspoken political and religious views.

She basically called him the Joe Rogan of Iran. LOL