Which stack do you prefer in a 10 week blast?

[Alex30]

Hello, Which stack do you prefer in a 10 week blast? in a recomposition
1. 600 Test E - 350 Tren E - 40 Win ED
2. 600 Test E- 500 Tren E
Which would be less hard on lipids / liver, kidney? Better to remove the oral and increase the tren?

 

[aphextwin]

Both

 

[machomadness22]

That’s a long time to run an oral for 10 weeks straight especially if you’re worried about lipids. Personally I also don’t see the need point in running tren that high. I’d rather do 600mg test and 300-350mg tren for a recomp maybe slowly bump up tren but to start right off the bat is a little extreme for me anyways

 

[Alex30]

That’s a long time to run an oral for 10 weeks straight especially if you’re worried about lipids. Personally I also don’t see the need point in running tren that high. I’d rather do 600mg test and 300-350mg tren for a recomp maybe slowly bump up tren but to start right off the bat is a little extreme for me anyways

Yes, you are right that the 10 weeks of oral is enough but many people run many weeks of oral even reaching 75-100 Win, think that i am not small, my weight is 110kg with an excellent form. I had also thought of a change

-1-5 weeks 600 Test - 350 Tren E - 40mg Win ED
-6-10 weeks 600 Test - 400-450 Tren - 400 Mast E
Although masteron never liked me to gain muscle / recomposition, only to lose fat and get cut.

 

[jaxino]

Hello, Which stack do you prefer in a 10 week blast? in a recomposition
1. 600 Test E - 350 Tren E - 40 Win ED
2. 600 Test E- 500 Tren E
Which would be less hard on lipids / liver, kidney? Better to remove the oral and increase the tren?

I don't run anything shorter than 16-20w.
10 weeks to make your aas do their job and build muscle is too short time.

I used orals for a max of 16-20w and a total of 100mg ed of usual orals with no issues (no Epistane or superdrol, things like Var W Drol etc) AST ALT barely hit 100-120, kidneys were always fine.
Depends what you want from a cycle... i use orals only when i need too keep calories in check since they lower my appetite.

All orals and Tren will hit hard on your lipids.

If you don't want low HDL (which i don't care tbh, if u do cardio and workout, you will be pretty safe anyway), just use Test Bold Nandrolone Primo Masteron. My lipids/kidneys value were always good on any stack including those aas.

 

[luki7788]

I agree that 10 weeks is too short, 16-20 weeks will be optimal, you won't come up with anything new here

test + nandrolone or test + trenbolone

personally, I would recommend high test medium nandrolone and low tren, very productive cycle eg

700mg test
400mg nandrolone
200mg tren

Plus gh and a proper insulin protocol without any freaks, eat right, train hard with a progressive overload and you'll be in a new size after 20 weeks like this

 

[Gunsmith]

Testosterone / Masteron / Trenbalone
Equal dose of each

As much HGH as you can afford per day

 

[Powerlifter]

I agree that 10 weeks is too short, 16-20 weeks will be optimal, you won't come up with anything new here

test + nandrolone or test + trenbolone

personally, I would recommend high test medium nandrolone and low tren, very productive cycle eg

700mg test
400mg nandrolone
200mg tren

Plus gh and a proper insulin protocol without any freaks, eat right, train hard with a progressive overload and you'll be in a new size after 20 weeks like this

Would you run those doses for all 20 weeks?

 

[Alex30]

Testosterone / Masteron / Trenbalone
Equal dose of each

As much HGH as you can afford per day

I think that masteron is not a good choice for bulking.

 

[Gunsmith]

I think that masteron is not a good choice for bulking.

But You didn't say you were bulking , you said "recompensation"
why do you think its not a good choice for bulking.???

 

[btails]

But You didn't say you were bulking , you said "recompensation"
why do you think its not a good choice for bulking.???

I'll second gunsmith on this.. I love mast in bulk cycles. Helps libido while running deca and such. Also helps keep a tighter appearance.

 

[juggy38]

I think that masteron is not a good choice for bulking.

mast being “cosmetic only” is bro lore. It’s about as good as adding tissue as anavar.

the difference between primo/mast/var and nandrolone/test/drol is glycogen retention/nitrogen retention.

If we could compare pure contractile tissue accrued during a cycle, yes the 19-nors and test would win, but after glycogen super compensation goes away and intracellular water dissipates, pure lean mass accrued would probably be 75% of the “bulkers”

I LOVE some test/nandrolone/mast cycles using nandrolone and mast as the anchor. Like 400 test/400 nandrolone/400-500 mast

And winstrol for 10 weeks is a great way to cause some nasty patella and elbow pain

 

[juggy38]

Orrr if you wanted more anabolism a test/nandrolone/primo cycle would be da bomb

 

[luki7788]

Would you run those doses for all 20 weeks?

yes

 

[pesty4077]

I think that masteron is not a good choice for bulking.

I disagree, depends how you eat. Great for a lean bulk.

 

[pimpman]

Test+npp+gh+mast and Proviron

 

[TheOtherOne55]

Luki and juggy have some great options.
Personally, i'd roll with some Test/Nandrolone/Mast...but i know for a fact that Test/Nandrolone/Tren is god's gift to cycling.

Either way is a win. I personally would not add an oral in unless you are dieting hard.

 

[b-boy]

Hello, Which stack do you prefer in a 10 week blast? in a recomposition
1. 600 Test E - 350 Tren E - 40 Win ED
2. 600 Test E- 500 Tren E
Which would be less hard on lipids / liver, kidney? Better to remove the oral and increase the tren?

What are you currently running? If the pic you just posted is recent then why do you say "recomposition"?

 

[Alex30]

Currently 150test, 200 mast in cruise, now my intention is to blast and gain some shoulder / tricep muscle while still losing some fat before competition season. I'm not looking for a bulking season.

 

[b-boy]

Currently 150test, 200 mast in cruise, now my intention is to blast and gain some shoulder / tricep muscle while still losing some fat before competition season. I'm not looking for a bulking season.

Well then honestly don't expect to build shit. Pick a goal either fat loss or lean tissue growth.