Way back many years ago (about 15 or 16) when I first started TRT, my doc started me on branded AndroGel 1.62% which yielded 20.25 mg per pump. After some experimenting and bloodwork, I ended up on 4 pumps (81mg) each day. I applied it every morning to my upper arms and delts after I got out of the shower. On that dose (4 pumps) my total test was right around 800 (don't remember what my free test numbers were). At the time, I felt pretty good overall with good bloodwork numbers. Eventually, I found my here to PM and began learning about injecting, injection frequency, different esters, etc. I found a different TRT doc and started injecting test cyp on my own and haven't looked back.