Who here likes Short esters?

[A50#]

Wondering how many people here at PM like or prefer short esters over longer acting items and why? Maybe some combinations you like, just not full blown cycles.

 

[traininsane11]

With the exception of tren ace mayyybeee it’s a no from me. More expensive and worst of all upwards of 3x the injection volume which I haaatteeeee

 

[specter]

I like short esters when it comes to the more "blast" style drugs like Tren Ace, Ment Ace, NPP and even Mast P.

 

[qbkilla]

Me. Prop. Haven't touched long acting in years. But I don't want to look like a bodybuilder...lean ripped and healthy are the goal

 

[Sectør]

With the exception of tren ace mayyybeee it’s a no from me. More expensive and worst of all upwards of 3x the injection volume which I haaatteeeee

Kind of same here with only preferring my tren to be short estered so I can adjust or bail quicker

Only other exception for me might be test-no-ester pre workout for that extra boost

But generally I’d prefer to pin less often when possible. Pinning just gets old after a while

 

[traininsane11]

Me. Prop. Haven't touched long acting in years. But I don't want to look like a bodybuilder...lean ripped and healthy are the goal

Long esters = you look like a bodybuilder

Short esters = lean and ripped (not a bodybuilder)

Got it

 

[qbkilla]

Long esters = you look like a bodybuilder

Short esters = lean and ripped (not a bodybuilder)

Got it

 

[Mufasa123]

I like short esters when it comes to the more "blast" style drugs like Tren Ace, Ment Ace, NPP and even Mast P.

I have the same view as this. Probably group with orals (just as far as organization and timing/duration, not exactly the same).

Those get managed, run for shorter periods, maybe swapped and longer base esters are run longer term and stable. Those longer ones are test e/c, deca mostly for me. Equipoise would fit in there. Not that I never adjust these but it's 90%.

Lots of ways to skin a cat. Works. Not necessarily optimal for all.

 

[ape1nope]

I incorporate them…but don’t prefer them. NPP, test prop, mast ace are common for me.

Tren (either ester) fucks with my mind.

Primo ace? I’d rather get hit by a train.

 

[tommyguns2]

I incorporate them…but don’t prefer them. NPP, test prop, mast ace are common for me.

I agree with this. I like things kicking into gear right away and the short esters do that. I suppose I'm OK with ED dosing of test cyp, or EQ or tren hex, but I'd do that with kick starting the first 1.5 weeks with test prop and tren ace.

 

[3BILLS]

Kind of same here with only preferring my tren to be short estered so I can adjust or bail quicker

How often have you had to do this ?

 

[specter]

I have the same view as this. Probably group with orals (just as far as organization and timing/duration, not exactly the same).

Those get managed, run for shorter periods, maybe swapped and longer base esters are run longer term and stable. Those longer ones are test e/c, deca mostly for me. Equipoise would fit in there. Not that I never adjust these but it's 90%.

Lots of ways to skin a cat. Works. Not necessarily optimal for all.

agreed, for me its test e/c and primo, they are the stables and gets pushed up and down during blast fazes along with the short ester drugs.

 

[Sectør]

How often have you had to do this ?

Probably a couple time. Usually after 4-5 weeks the mental sides get old, sleep deprivation catches up and the CNS starts to burnout. Having it mostly clear within a half a week or so is much nicer than waiting a few weeks with ennanthate

 

[3BILLS]

Probably a couple time. Usually after 4-5 weeks the mental sides get old, sleep deprivation catches up and the CNS starts to burnout. Having it mostly clear within a half a week or so is much nicer than waiting a few weeks with ennanthate

Have you tried tren e like you would use test e for trt. Low dosing everyday

 

[gains4000]

short esters are better and hit quicker. The only reason long esters are preferred is because you get more MG per ML without the PIP.

I prefer NPP over DECA after having experience with both.

Funny enough I’ve never used Tren ace and Only enanthate. I don’t recommend Tren E, the effects last at least a month after the last pin.

 

[Mufasa123]

short esters are better and hit quicker. The only reason long esters are preferred is because you get more MG per ML without the PIP.

I prefer NPP over DECA after having experience with both.

Funny enough I’ve never used Tren ace and Only enanthate. I don’t recommend Tren E, the effects last at least a month after the last pin.

All of that is true but I'd add less frequent injections - whole purpose of esterification is delayed/sustained release - and part of the higher mg/ml is also lower injection volume (these two combined are pretty good draws even more so for guys running higher doses). Could also add lower cost/mg.

That said, I do like the fast in/out of shorter esters and orals.

 

[A50#]

Have you tried tren e like you would use test e for trt. Low dosing everyday

I know this question wasn't directed at me but I have tried low dose Tren E daily 20mg and really liked it. The ONLY issue I had was it elevated my BP more than I like. Again I'm an older guy so just might be an old man side effect.

 

[3BILLS]

I know this question wasn't directed at me but I have tried low dose Tren E daily 20mg and really liked it. The ONLY issue I had was it elevated my BP more than I like. Again I'm an older guy so just might be an old man side effect.

I feel better on 10mg tren e daily compared to using 10mg tren a. Both times were for 5 week runs with a significant break in between

Thanks for sharing

 

[lestatgear]

I limit the compounds I run the days, but various cycles of:
Test/Primo = long ester but split dose 3x week.
Mast.Tren/NPP = short ester

Besides GH, Proviron and peptides, that's pretty much it.

 

[LK3]

i do!
i do!
i do!
even with trt at 10-20 mg ed ish i much prefer tp of te or tc.
the simplest way to say it is i just have more test feel, libido etc.
short esters all the way.
long ones i do ed too.