Who LOVES primo?

[EnhancedFatGrappler]

“Hey who here loves Pussy!?”

Sir, yes sir.

More than Primo even!

Not sure which of both is worse on my wallet though

 

[Siggy]

I am 64 and like pussy.
But if it means having to deal with women i tend to pass.

Brother, I am "just" 47 and I pass on it if I have to deal with the women or put any work into it whatsoever. Im done with all that nonsense.

 

[madg]

I am primo

 

[nothuman]

Anyone notice a spike in hematocrit on primo or is it just me?

 

[Mufasa123]

Anyone notice a spike in hematocrit on primo or is it just me?

Bumps up mine a bit over time. HDL takes a solid hit on 600mg. Otherwise bloods are stellar with primo/test.

Not as bad on crit as tren or deca for me but it's there.

 

[nothuman]

Bumps up mine a bit over time. HDL takes a solid hit on 600mg. Otherwise bloods are stellar with primo/test.

Not as bad on crit as tren or deca for me but it's there.

To be fair, I implemented deca at the same time as primo so it could be that instead, so it is probably unfair of me to blame it on primo yet. I have heard a mixed bag about which increases it more. I’m not on primo anymore so I will re-check at some point on just deca

 

[Mufasa123]

To be fair, I implemented deca at the same time as primo so it could be that instead, so it is probably unfair of me to blame it on primo yet. I have heard a mixed bag about which increases it more. I’m not on primo anymore so I will re-check at some point on just deca

Might be that for sure.

I've done three 20 week primo cycles. 500 test 600 primo (sometimes 200 Mast in there). Each time crit is up a few pts. Deca is a step worse for me, tren beyond that. It isn't a big kick and 20 weeks is a decently long run so I don't sweat it too bad on crit but it does move it for me.

 

[nothuman]

Might be that for sure.

I've done three 20 week primo cycles. 500 test 600 primo (sometimes 200 Mast in there). Each time crit is up a few pts. Deca is a step worse for me, tren beyond that. It isn't a big kick and 20 weeks is a decently long run so I don't sweat it too bad on crit but it does move it for me.

Type-II said less androgenic steroids might raise HCT more and said primo can raise HCT quite a bit for some people.

 

[Siggy]

Anyone notice a spike in hematocrit on primo or is it just me?

Primo raised my hematocrit more than any other oil including EQ.

 

[Eddie.]

Type-II said less androgenic steroids might raise HCT more and said primo can raise HCT quite a bit for some people.

Makes sense since it's a drug presribed for anemia in the first place. Haven't pushed gear really high yet but so far nothing affects my CBC. On 325 Test + 150 primo my HCT was 45. On 500 Test + 300 EQ + 150 NPP + 75mg anadrol 4 times a week my HCT is still 45. The only difference is in Platelets which were 236 on test-primo stack and 176 currently on the heavier stack. I'm gonna revisit the Test+Primo in February in higher dosages. Unfortunately though i can't run it higher than 50% of Test because it nukes my estradiol.

 

[bbxtreme]

To be fair, I implemented deca at the same time as primo so it could be that instead, so it is probably unfair of me to blame it on primo yet. I have heard a mixed bag about which increases it more. I’m not on primo anymore so I will re-check at some point on just deca

Primobolan was once indicated for anemia. My money would be on the primo over the Deca.

 

[Mufasa123]

Type-II said less androgenic steroids might raise HCT more and said primo can raise HCT quite a bit for some people.

Assuming we are talking mg per mg and not average user cycle dose, my experience and bloodwork doesn't reflect that and more the opposite - dramatically. I watch hematocrit very closely too due to insurance reasons and even pre-TRT and cruises I sit at very top of range so it's a potential financial issue for me (47-48 is about as low as I get with 50 being upper range test threshold).

I haven't used equipoise enough to include. I will say the primo does also lower my E2 but not nearly what equipoise does. 600 primo and 500 test puts me just at 31 E2 sensative. 600 equipoise, 1000 test, 600 deca had me at 20 E2 (same mix with test at 750 nearly zeroed me E2).

EDIT - obviously this is just my body and my testing. But I've done a shit load of it over many years isolating effects of different drugs, multiple times, so figured I'd pass on how they hit me.

 

[luki7788]

Every compound will raise the hematocrit - that's how steroids work and it's a positive side effect for us because we want it as athletes - more red blood cells that transport more oxygen. I don't notice it in myself after anything only anadrol raised my RBC and hematocrit

 

[Doitagain]

Deca is a step worse for me, tren beyond that.

Interestingly, tren has always been the least harmful for me in that regard. #'s barely move at all.

 

[mslmn]

Anyone notice a spike in hematocrit on primo or is it just me?

I noticed it too.

 

[mslmn]

Interestingly, tren has always been the least harmful for me in that regard. #'s barely move at all.

I have to say, not much of an impact on my self as well.

 

[nothuman]

Interestingly, tren has always been the least harmful for me in that regard. #'s barely move at all.

I have to say, not much of an impact on my self as well.

This supports what type-II says then

 

[Doitagain]

This supports what type-II says then

Also, Masteron seems to be a more potent Hematopoietic agent than most tend to believe, and some old studies I came across corroborate this idea.

 

[nothuman]

Also, Masteron seems to be a more potent Hematopoietic agent than most tend to believe, and some old studies I came across corroborate this idea.

I decided to do a little research since many cyclists who took EPO actually did have problems, and several ended up dying.

Apparently, EPO raises platelets in addition to red blood cells. Makes a lot of sense.