Who uses an anti-prolacin when on GH?

[GoneForever]

Cabergoline
Bromo
Nothing
Other

 

[Ashop]

ive used alot of gh and never had prolactin problem

 

[GoneForever]

Did you ever get it tested. I have a buddy who was on 5iu's GH and felt fine, no gyno, nothing, and got his prolactin tested and it was about 5points out of the range on the HIGH end. He was only on GH and winny at that time.

 

[The Wolf]

Winny, Deca, Test can all make your prolactin go high and suppress your LH/FSH. I have never taken growth but last year my prolatin was 15 points higher than normal.

 

[GoneForever]

Winny, Deca, Test can all make your prolactin go high and suppress your LH/FSH. I have never taken growth but last year my prolatin was 15 points higher than normal.

I think winny actually helps lower it. To my understanding the biggest agents that can raise prolactin are tren and deca. Then comes adrol and test(usually in higher amounts as well) Gh can as well but not sure about IGF and other peptides.

 

[KillerStack]

Winny, Deca, Test can all make your prolactin go high and suppress your LH/FSH. I have never taken growth but last year my prolatin was 15 points higher than normal.

From what I've read estrogen elevates prolactin but androgens don't. So it was probably the test that was the cause (due to aromatization).

Acta Endocrinol (Copenh) 1984 Feb;105(2):167-72

Testosterone-induced hyperprolactinaemia in a patient with a disturbance of hypothalamo-pituitary regulation.

Nicoletti I, Filipponi P, Fedeli L, Ambrosi F, Gregorini G, Santeusanio F.

A case of a patient with hypopituitarism due to a disturbance of hypothalamo-pituitary regulation is presented, who developed high-grade hyperprolactinaemia after the initiation of substitutive therapy with testosterone esthers.The increase in serum Prl was strictly related to testosterone aromatization to oestradiol, since anti-oestrogen compounds were effective in reducing (clomiphene) or abolishing (tamoxifen) the enhanced Prl secretion. The oestrogen effect in raising Prl release was not attributable to a reduction in the dopamine inhibition of Prl-secreting cells, as the dopamine-antagonist domperidone failed to increase Prl serum levels in the same patient. This suggests that, in man, the oestrogen effect in enhancing Prl release is mainly enacted directly on the pituitary lactotrophs rather than exerted through a reduction in the hypothalamic dopamine

 

[mikeheavypecs]

Bros
Anyone that understands the relationships between these hormones please plesae chyme in . I have a close friend, female national bodybuilder, who is taking 1000mg Test / week. She wants her (how do I say this properly LOL) breasts to grow more so she is taking 300mg/month of Progresterone which seems to be working. Anyone know if this should really increase the breast size?
Thanks and this is serious

Mike

 

[DatBtrue]

Bros
Anyone that understands the relationships between these hormones please plesae chyme in . I have a close friend, female national bodybuilder, who is taking 1000mg Test / week. She wants her (how do I say this properly LOL) breasts to grow more so she is taking 300mg/month of Progresterone which seems to be working. Anyone know if this should really increase the breast size?
Thanks and this is serious

Mike

The BEST information on this comes from medical journal articles that discuss such things in people with a similar hormonal profile as your friend. Because of her high testosterone use she has a hormonal profile similar to a Male to Female transgender.

A very good clinical review "Medical Care of Transsexual Patients" by Kathleen A. Oriel, M.D., M.S. in the Journal of the Gay and Lesbian Medical Association, Vol. 4, No. 4, 2000 which may be downloaded at: **broken link removed**

If you look through it you will find that "Testosterone will not decrease breast size." The specific information you seek is in the MALE-TO-FEMALE HORMONE REGIMENS section. You will see that the use of Estrogen induces breast development BUT it is not dose related. They use Spironolactone as an antiandrogen of testosterone which means that they don't have to use as much estrogen to induce breast development (only physiologic or "hormone replacement" levels). After these two primary hormonal therapies some doctors use Progesterone as an optional third hormone in the mix to augment breast development.

Anyway it all works together and your friend should read the relevant sections as it discuses specific dosing regimes & medical implications. Don't be put off or allow her to be offended by the source of the information. Facts are facts no matter where we find them.

 

[willylee]

Bros
Anyone that understands the relationships between these hormones please plesae chyme in . I have a close friend, female national bodybuilder, who is taking 1000mg Test / week. She wants her (how do I say this properly LOL) breasts to grow more so she is taking 300mg/month of Progresterone which seems to be working. Anyone know if this should really increase the breast size?
Thanks and this is serious

Mike

Why not just have a breast augmentation. I don't think chemical breast enhancement is a worth while endeavor.

 

[mikeheavypecs]

The BEST information on this comes from medical journal articles that discuss such things in people with a similar hormonal profile as your friend. Because of her high testosterone use she has a hormonal profile similar to a Male to Female transgender.

A very good clinical review "Medical Care of Transsexual Patients" by Kathleen A. Oriel, M.D., M.S. in the Journal of the Gay and Lesbian Medical Association, Vol. 4, No. 4, 2000 which may be downloaded at: **broken link removed**

If you look through it you will find that "Testosterone will not decrease breast size." The specific information you seek is in the MALE-TO-FEMALE HORMONE REGIMENS section. You will see that the use of Estrogen induces breast development BUT it is not dose related. They use Spironolactone as an antiandrogen of testosterone which means that they don't have to use as much estrogen to induce breast development (only physiologic or "hormone replacement" levels). After these two primary hormonal therapies some doctors use Progesterone as an optional third hormone in the mix to augment breast development.

Anyway it all works together and your friend should read the relevant sections as it discuses specific dosing regimes & medical implications. Don't be put off or allow her to be offended by the source of the information. Facts are facts no matter where we find them.

WOW! Thanks Bro for the info!
Mike