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Why BBing contests suck

Who is pissed because you like it?

Trulyhuge said:
EXACTLY.....SPECTATOR'S!!!!! If you asked me my opinion of watching golf or cricket my response would be....I don't care for it!
But, would you see a Tiger Woods come out and bash his sport? Why? Because he respects the sport and loves it...hence....he plays!!!
Now, whatever hangup you have on bodybuilding is your business...no one elses. But, why post this on a BODYBUILDING board? Nonetheless, why post it and not expect a totally different view and then get pissed about it? What gives man?:confused:

TH

The only one pissed is TPFU. No one is pissed because you like watching contests. Bodybuilding is about building muscles and healthy living, not everyone likes to show themselves on a stage all oiled up. If someone makes a post about them not enjoying it, WHO CARES. Cant we voice that without a rebuttle?
 
Trulyhuge said:
EXACTLY.....SPECTATOR'S!!!!! If you asked me my opinion of watching golf or cricket my response would be....I don't care for it!
But, would you see a Tiger Woods come out and bash his sport? Why? Because he respects the sport and loves it...hence....he plays!!!
Now, whatever hangup you have on bodybuilding is your business...no one elses. But, why post this on a BODYBUILDING board? Nonetheless, why post it and not expect a totally different view and then get pissed about it? What gives man?:confused:

TH

Great post, i'm sure many here (like myself) agree with you.
 
Trulyhuge said:
EXACTLY.....SPECTATOR'S!!!!! If you asked me my opinion of watching golf or cricket my response would be....I don't care for it!
But, would you see a Tiger Woods come out and bash his sport? Why? Because he respects the sport and loves it...hence....he plays!!!
Now, whatever hangup you have on bodybuilding is your business...no one elses. But, why post this on a BODYBUILDING board? Nonetheless, why post it and not expect a totally different view and then get pissed about it? What gives man?:confused:

TH

Phil posted his opinion as this thread(which I think to be a very astute observation)...and I was voicing my opinion on the same matter. I posted it on a Bodybuilding board, because I was responding to a thread about it. Just because this is a bodybuilding board, doesn't mean we all have to agree, right?
 
TooPowerful4u said:
the hell if i know about expo's. Not fun for me. Anyone who wants to have a good laugh at me, stop by the Gaspari booth and watch Rich scream at all of us for a few days....:(

Hmm....try to bang hot girls or watch you get screamed at...let me think about this for a minute...
 
Keep me out of this crap!:mad: TP, I told you that Phil and I were cool. All I said was that Phil pm'd me with that I told him to call me. As far as I am concerned Phil and I are cool. Hopefully, we can meet one day and laugh about the madness on this board at times. Phil, KNOW that I am not going around pming people and speaking about stupid stuff!!! Another point... I have trained two clients today and have veiwed this thread off and on. It has shown that I am viewing when in fact I am not even log in. Maybe Big A can explain that.
 
Pete

pumpputnam said:
Keep me out of this crap!:mad: TP, I told you that Phil and I were cool. All I said was that Phil pm'd me with that I told him to call me. As far as I am concerned Phil and I are cool. Hopefully, we can meet one day and laugh about the madness on this board at times. Phil, KNOW that I am not going around pming people and speaking about stupid stuff!!! Another point... I have trained two clients today and have veiwed this thread off and on. It has shown that I am viewing when in fact I am not even log in. Maybe Big A can explain that.

You and I are MORE THAN OK!! How you been?? I wanted to reply to the arm size idea, but you got me by an inch or so, so I shut up!!! Everything going ok??? TPFU and I are just getting things out in the open I guess, no disrespect to anyone on here. I alologise if I said anything to offend anyone. I originally started this to vent about BBing shows.
 
PHIL HERNON said:
HAhhahhaha You are such a cocky clown. I will have BBB come on here and tell you what happened, then maybe you can leave this thread and get two more people to snitch on.

dude i dont realy care. lets just leave this alone....u got me worked up and i feel like a child and im a lil embarrased now.... can we just agree to disagree and let this go/
 
TP4U can you explain what ya mean

TooPowerful4u said:
I got Kneller busted huh haha. I never knew what was goin on, clueless. Nice try tho. Dont lie about waht happened with BBB, you said yourself he came through for you. By the way DOKTORSPOK will never again in his life beat me on stage, no matter how much you help him... bro lol i was 21 he was 32.. i would hope he beat a kid who didnt lift for 2 full yrs of his life yet lol
Whao guys.. TP4U Phil sold me the hammer strength after i commited to buying it... when others offered to buy it he told them i was buying it so he turned down more money per piece to sell it too me.. after all i did help him move his gym and asked for nothing in return ..not even lunch..lol...

I am not sure what you mean by saying "i came through for him".. i think your saying he was hurting for money and i bailed him out of $$ jam... if so like i said he could of gotten atleast $200+ more per piece...

Phil is and has been a true friend over the last few years to me when others bailed on me... we all should be so lucky to have someone like him in our lives.. kiss and make up will ya..
 
Wow ........this makes me sad to read seriously, I hate when this place comes to this ...........TP4U .....here is the deal bro .....You are young , and you know I like you , but showing this kind of disrespect on here is honestly not a good representation of yourself what so ever ......You can say that you dont care , but you should ....You are a young person just starting to figure his way out in life and I understand that , I also understand Phil got you going and you took it from there [ I would have probally done the same thing ].........But TP , respect your elders bro .........Phil has been to places in this sport that most will never see or would want to .......How about having to sell gear in order pay for the bbing lifestyle [ I bet alot of good people on here have done so ....maybe people that you might even know ?] , getting set up by a friend , taking his punishment like a man [ which I believe cost him 3 yrs of his life and a close relationship with his daughters ], having everyone turn on him after his arrest , having the sport that he loved and lived for turn its back on him in his time of need , [ while many top guys were doing the exact same thing and not getting caught .....even watching the whole titus first arrest deal had to hurt big time ], he has also seen the aftermath and the damage that drugs cause on many levels , the politics , and he has seen and been approached / harrassed by the gay people that control the sport .......Hmmmm TP I dont call that being bitter ......I call that being EDUCATED !!! That is the difference between being 39 and 23 [ some things can only be seen over time and learned through life expirence ] ........There were some bad things said by both parties ........I realize that [ But also realize , when I have fucked up ,I always gone back and corrected my mistakes ....always ...taking shit to this level was a fuck up and should be corrected ] Show some class for yourself , the board , and to PHil and delete your posts [ I am sure he would follow suit ] All I can say is this ......just think about what I said ........before you have walked in another man's shoes and been where he has been .....dont judge ........You should be soaking up every word Phil shares around here , not because he is a great bber , but because bro , he has been through alot in his life and some of what he has to share might save you some heartache .............think about it and do what you want ........but I hope you take my advice [ I wont speak for PHil , but I am sure that he would take that as a truce and appreciate it .....and return the gesture by deleting his posts concerning you as well .......these petty attacks on eachother are ridiculus ........you dont need to like eachother, fine , but respect the board at least guys .......I know I am not perfect .....I have tried to be good for awhile [it is hard to bite my toungue at times ], but I do out of respect for the board ], and like I said ....I always fix my mistakes and take responsibility for my actions ] Do what you want fellas ........but since I am a member here ....that is my two cents .......
 
Iabadman said:
Wow ........this makes me sad to read seriously, I hate when this place comes to this ...........TP4U .....here is the deal bro .....You are young , and you know I like you , but showing this kind of disrespect on here is honestly not a good representation of yourself what so ever ......You can say that you dont care , but you should ....You are a young person just starting to figure his way out in life and I understand that , I also understand Phil got you going and you took it from there [ I would have probally done the same thing ].........But TP , respect your elders bro .........Phil has been to places in this sport that most will never see or would want to .......How about having to sell gear in order pay for the bbing lifestyle [ I bet alot of good people on here have done so ....maybe people that you might even know ?] , getting set up by a friend , taking his punishment like a man [ which I believe cost him 3 yrs of his life and a close relationship with his daughters ], having everyone turn on him after his arrest , having the sport that he loved and lived for turn its back on him in his time of need , [ while many top guys were doing the exact same thing and not getting caught .....even watching the whole titus first arrest deal had to hurt big time ], he has also seen the aftermath and the damage that drugs cause on many levels , the politics , and he has seen and been approached / harrassed by the gay people that control the sport .......Hmmmm TP I dont call that being bitter ......I call that being EDUCATED !!! That is the difference between being 39 and 23 [ some things can only be seen over time and learned through life expirence ] ........There were some bad things said by both parties ........I realize that [ But also realize , when I have fucked up ,I always gone back and corrected my mistakes ....always ...taking shit to this level was a fuck up and should be corrected ] Show some class for yourself , the board , and to PHil and delete your posts [ I am sure he would follow suit ] All I can say is this ......just think about what I said ........before you have walked in another man's shoes and been where he has been .....dont judge ........You should be soaking up every word Phil shares around here , not because he is a great bber , but because bro , he has been through alot in his life and some of what he has to share might save you some heartache .............think about it and do what you want ........but I hope you take my advice [ I wont speak for PHil , but I am sure that he would take that as a truce and appreciate it .....and return the gesture by deleting his posts concerning you as well .......these petty attacks on eachother are ridiculus ........you dont need to like eachother, fine , but respect the board at least guys .......I know I am not perfect .....I have tried to be good for awhile [it is hard to bite my toungue at times ], but I do out of respect for the board ], and like I said ....I always fix my mistakes and take responsibility for my actions ] Do what you want fellas ........but since I am a member here ....that is my two cents .......

Every word you speak to me is heard loud and clear and soaked up, you know that. Here, you are absolutly right once again. This was very childish of me and i shouldnt ahve taken it to this level. I had no idea those things happened to phil, i guess i would be pretty upset with the sport and pissed i got caught when others much larger got away with it. For everything i have said... i know it wont mean much to you at this point... but Phil i apologise. I will be a man, delete every post, and keep my mouth shut. Iabadman is totally right, you are alot older and wiser than me, youv been through it, and i have no right opening my mouth.

Iabadman... thank you once again, im glad your here to steer me in the right direction.... cant thank you enough
 
TooPowerful4u said:
Every word you speak to me is heard loud and clear and soaked up, you know that. Here, you are absolutly right once again. This was very childish of me and i shouldnt ahve taken it to this level. I had no idea those things happened to phil, i guess i would be pretty upset with the sport and pissed i got caught when others much larger got away with it. For everything i have said... i know it wont mean much to you at this point... but Phil i apologise. I will be a man, delete every post, and keep my mouth shut. Iabadman is totally right, you are alot older and wiser than me, youv been through it, and i have no right opening my mouth.

Iabadman... thank you once again, im glad your here to steer me in the right direction.... cant thank you enough

I think you just matured a little. Proud of your response. Especially coming from a 23 year old young guy. Very noble of you. You did good big guy. This is not to say that Phil was innocent in my book, he shouldn't be arguing with a young guy like this anyway. There are to many boundaries between the age difference. But I did feel the majority of the "to the core" slamming came from you. But it probably did let some aggravation out.

Now if we can just get mod to delete this thread so Phil can re-create it in the right frame of mind.

As a side note, I definately like V's approach to all of this... :D
 
Now that is the TP that I grown to know and love .....lol......if you only knew what Phil has been through [ and I only know a very small part .side note ...drugs or health didnt have anything to do with Phil leaving the sport ...Wanting to stay free was his reason to stop competing and still is ....to be a pro ,you put a target on yourself as a law breaker .the DEA has a data base for a fact that keeps track of all IFBB pros in the states ask MIlos if I am Lying ? Why do you think I walked away at 25 with a bright future from the sport after my arrest ? I hated prison it was not worth it , I learned my lesson ......he tries to teach you guys things all the time , you just have to read between the lines ........he just has a very short writting style , is blunt , and comes off sarcastic .......but if you talk to him .....he is nothing like that what so ever ......the mans just loves bbing ......just not the sport so much and has reason to .....respect what he has to say... you certainly dont have agree all the time ....and he was wrong to attack you...but try to listen to his posts instead of read them ...make sense ?.] Also thanks so much for your pm earlier .....it meant alot ......I will pm you in abit with my work number if you are up til about midnight ...you could call me at my club .....we should chat [ Franco aka Bulldo21 is going to call me there tonight as well ......he is great people and sayes alot good things about you ......I would like to talk to you ...so call me ]I appreciate the respect that you have given me and the members of the board by maning up ........I hope Phil follows suit.............now as we always say around here .....back to bbing ............lol
 
he just has a very short writting style , is blunt , and comes off sarcastic .......but if you talk to him .....he is nothing like that what so ever

I, as well as many other can attest to that, Phil was nothing in person like he comes across online...it is hard to judge where someone is coming from when you are reading words and not getting the nonverbal signs with it.
 
PHIL HERNON said:
The only one pissed is TPFU. No one is pissed because you like watching contests. Bodybuilding is about building muscles and healthy living, not everyone likes to show themselves on a stage all oiled up. If someone makes a post about them not enjoying it, WHO CARES. Cant we voice that without a rebuttle?
i am not sure if this means anything but i did 23 shows over a 7 year period from locals NY State shows to National Qualifiers in Penn, NY, NC and Fl.. i loved doing it and always told myself when it is not fun i will stop...

If your having fun getting ready for 12-16 weeks for a show your
#1 insane
#2 Not ready come showday
#3 not serious
#4 not right in the head (insane)

point is if you do shows and do them right they are not fun especially at the upper levels... If a show is done right everyone feels like a winner and the expos are a different story..

Bottom line is all about making money and in a sport that is self centered and ego driven money will be and is made at the expense by all those who compete, attend and purchase items.. the sponsers and promotors are the only ones who make anything..

Glad to see we are all getting along again...
 
Back in the day when i was upset or down feeling low angry , id just go find a piece of ass like this hit it and my world seemed like hevan .

BOTH of you get some pussy lmao , bunch of cry babies personally attacking eachother for what fucking reason this whole thing sucks , like i said get some pussy biatches:p
 

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Phil once told me (back in the day) that you can raise endogenous testosterone levels by running naked on a treadmill (due to the jostling of the testicles). What he didnt tell me was that he had meant in the privacy of your own home on your home treadmill. Damn did I look like an idiot walking into 24 hour Fitness at crunch time (5pm) with nothing on but addidas sneakers, a baseball cap and a walkman. I was freeballing it for 12 minutes at 7mph and a 10 incline before I was escorted out. The "hung like a hamster" jokes continue to this day
 

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