WHY CRUISE?

[Johnny Smiles]

if you are NOT on hrt and you are NOT medically determined to have lower testosterone than normal WHY CRUISE?
i have many and much reasons for and against cruising but am curious about what everyone thinks.
-JS

 

[wtw11171]

JS:

I am interested in knowing about this myself. I think there are many guys out there that blast and cruise. Of course we know that many will not come forward and admit this. So I think it should be an interesting topic if the bros. will chime in.

if you are NOT on hrt and you are NOT medically determined to have lower testosterone than normal WHY CRUISE?
i have many and much reasons for and against cruising but am curious about what everyone thinks.
-JS

 

[Ivan]

JS -- glad you started this thread

I have always been an advocate of straight cycling. Now if you are middle-aged, and run HRT, or are medically deficient that is different. I was looking at that other thread of the 23 year old worrying about his fertility. I would worry too if I was his age and "cruising". Personally, I have NEVER cruised, or Bridged. I cycle, and I stay off the exact time I was on. Hey the off time is not the end of the world for me either. I may go down to 211-215 pounds, but I am still muscular and lean -- athletic. In fact, I just got back on after taking 5 years off entirely. After my knee surgery I was no longer a competitive athlete, so I felt I had no reason to use performance enhancing drugs. I am not a competitive bodybuilder either. I had to ask myself the reason(s) for getting back "on". I came up with some, but they were different from the ones of the past. I think the body needs a break from ANY drug, (unless disease is involved) so to me cruising is a bad idea.

 

[RINO]

Nice.Very good question. I'd like to see responses myself.Looking forward to them.

 

[Michaelthomasj]

I have always been an advocate of straight cycling. Now if you are middle-aged, and run HRT, or are medically deficient that is different. I was looking at that other thread of the 23 year old worrying about his fertility. I would worry too if I was his age and "cruising". Personally, I have NEVER cruised, or Bridged. I cycle, and I stay off the exact time I was on. Hey the off time is not the end of the world for me either. I may go down to 211-215 pounds, but I am still muscular and lean -- athletic. In fact, I just got back on after taking 5 years off entirely. After my knee surgery I was no longer a competitive athlete, so I felt I had no reason to use performance enhancing drugs. I am not a competitive bodybuilder either. I had to ask myself the reason(s) for getting back "on". I came up with some, but they were different from the ones of the past. I think the body needs a break from ANY drug, (unless disease is involved) so to me cruising is a bad idea.

Great response Ivan. I have never cruised or bridged either. I have always taken time off in between as well. I have been off for some time as well due to injury. I was actually suppossed to start a few months back, but wasnt working out the way that i wanted. So i held off and then got into an accident. Now i am out of the gym all together, and wonder if i am going to have to have back surgery. Anyway I am against cruising unless it is medically neccessary.

 

[ironone1]

Assuming "cursing" as I understand the word to mean, is still "using"
between cycles . . .

I'm as far from experienced, or an expert, as one could get, but I'll
venture my opinion, having never done a "cycle", and we can call this
a SWAG (scientific wild ass guess . . .).

To maintain gains that, perhaps, would otherwise diminish as a result
of testosterone levels that are within "normal" levels, therefore making
the subsequent cycle / gains easier, more readily available as we all
know that there is a direct correlation between muscular mass and
testosterone for instance; the more test you have the more muscle you
can carry.

The effects on ones health (cursing) being dependent upon what one
takes between cycles to maintain and prior usage, medical history, your
diet, and genetic predisposition among other things.

Good question though.

"Cursing" LOL! No bro, it's cruising. Not sure your point but you wouldn't see much diminish if your test was within normal levels.

 

[Ness]

I think running cycles are much worse than cruising (heath wise) if you are a frequent anabolic user....as most peeps who go to the darkside dont stop with just one cycle.

In addition, I think EVERY male should be on some dose of Test after a certain age...testosterone alone is a great thing for the aging male, imo.

 

[Ivan]

I think running cycles are much worse than cruising (heath wise) if you are a frequent anabolic user....as most peeps who go to the darkside dont stop with just one cycle.

In addition, I think EVERY male should be on some dose of Test after a certain age...testosterone alone is a great thing for the aging male, imo.

Just curious, could you elaborate on why you think that cycling is much worse on the health than cruising? I personally think that shutting the hpta down for too long can only spell problems for health. I would like to hear your argument though.

 

[jef]

This is an interesting topic. I've never done this but had thought seriously about it in the past. To me, there would be only one reason to do so and that would be to hold onto the gains that you work so hard for but ultimately the body will want to be at a genetic weight you're designed to function best at. If you are going to be a body builder and be ready to eat and train the way you would need to for 24/7 365 then by all means. But for general health I can't see the point. This could be my state of mind and what my current goals and training methods are but that's my opinion and this is the opinion that your question is asking to cycle and cruise for an entire year or longer.

Once I have kids and at least another 5-10 years older than I am now then I am going to be more than happy to cruise for the remainder of my life with some healthy test introductions.

 

[Magnolia5]

"some dose of Test after a certain age"

What age should someone start cruising?

 

[kscowboy]

Personally i like to run my cycle and then come off for a set period of time. I like to let my body get back to where it is naturally. Then cycle again.

 

[tkav1980]

Just curious, could you elaborate on why you think that cycling is much worse on the health than cruising? I personally think that shutting the hpta down for too long can only spell problems for health. I would like to hear your argument though.

I believe the key statement by Ness is "after a certain age".

Fluctuating homrone levels cant be that good for you. Nature doesnt do it to the extreme that cycling does. I would imagine that mimicing the bodys natural levels as closely as possible would be the safest way to use an anabolic.

 

[tkav1980]

"some dose of Test after a certain age"

What age should someone start cruising?

This would depend on blood work....for some it may be 23 and other 40.

 

[Ivan]

Yeah I agree with HRT, I do. But he put that as "additionally" in the latter part of his post. After a certain age, well yeah, or perhaps it would be better to get blood work done instead of a setpoint age. I bet some men stay in healthy ranges well into their 40's. Some obviously do not, and HRT is wonderful for restoring male vitality. But being a healthy young man, or even a man in his late 20's and mid to late 30's, and never coming off? It sounds like justifying to me.

 

[kscowboy]

Hey JS what are your thoughts on this subject?

 

[tkav1980]

Yeah I agree with HRT, I do. But he put that as "additionally" in the latter part of his post. After a certain age, well yeah, or perhaps it would be better to get blood work done instead of a setpoint age. I bet some men stay in healthy ranges well into their 40's. Some obviously do not, and HRT is wonderful for restoring male vitality. But being a healthy young man, or even a man in his late 20's and mid to late 30's, and never coming off? It sounds like justifying to me.

Im not for or against it. but lets think of it like this. A body likes homeostasis. When you increase testosterone other hormones your body adjusts to create a more balanced system . Extreme fluctuations that are, relatively, frequent, it seems , would do more harm than good. what if instead of spiking levels up and down, you took them up verry slowly, maintained them for some given time, and brought them down to normal levels as slowly as you increased them?

It is my opinion, that a curise would be safer IF that cruise was desigend to mimic the human bodies natural function.

Could i be totally wrong? absolutely. It just makes mroe sense to me to cruise than to stop.

*by cruise i mean come back down to normal, healthy physiological levels.

 

[Benches]

I'm old enough to be on hrt (40) and my natural test levels are low enough to get me a script ( mid 400's) but I still choose to cycle. After the initial crash phase I just feel better and healthier coming off and getting clean from the drugs. There are just so many risks to staying on IMO that it becomes necessary to clear out the system. Most people that cruise do so at much higher dosages than what trt would be prescribed at also and further compromise their health. I can understand professional BB'ers who make their living from the sport doing it but for the rest of us it doesn't make sense.

I will only be doing 2, 8-10 week cycles per year for as long as my body can handle it safely.

 

[almard]

To maintain gains and health wise.....When I come off, I lose my gains, sex drive decrease, get sick and fell like 9 years old girl.....

 

[Tylerman]

To maintain gains and health wise.....When I come off, I lose my gains, sex drive decrease, get sick and fell like 9 years old girl.....

X2

 

[kid1dakota]

Yeah I agree with HRT, I do. But he put that as "additionally" in the latter part of his post. After a certain age, well yeah, or perhaps it would be better to get blood work done instead of a setpoint age. I bet some men stay in healthy ranges well into their 40's. Some obviously do not, and HRT is wonderful for restoring male vitality. But being a healthy young man, or even a man in his late 20's and mid to late 30's, and never coming off? It sounds like justifying to me.

I think thats it.
When you are on HRT you arent cruising.You are coming back to normal levels,you just need medication for normal levels.If you don't need anything to be at normal levels you are "justifying".