why does prop hurt so damn much???

[lucian]

i cant figure out why some prop hurts more than others? is it too much ba/bb? or something else? its been 2 days and starting to subside but damn... what a bitch. anyone have any prop stories??
lucian

 

[Vegeta]

i cant figure out why some prop hurts more than others? is it too much ba/bb? or something else? its been 2 days and starting to subside but damn... what a bitch. anyone have any prop stories??
lucian

Could be . I have some from Morning Star and it does not hurt at all . Smooth as silk. The very first shot I ever did of it hurt for a couple days though. But now it's all good . Weird !

 

[fearnofish]

I was going 2cc's of 100mg prop each day leading up to the Emerald Cup. I took 7th in the over 40 heavy's. You talk about pain, I know exactly what you are talking about. Not only that but the knots I was getting made my arse swell up like Ronnie Colemans. Never again will I use prop, between that and the Winstrol that used DMSO as a solvent, I experienced more pain then a fella should. I will drink the winny next time around and only use Test Suspension.

 

[aaron]

Odd, everyone told me prop and winny hurt. I slammed both and I didn't hurt at all or maybe I'm just used to it. Could be the brand too, I know winny hurts cause of the solid particles but prop I dunno just pain free for me.

 

[DIEZEL666]

I get no pain at all from prop. In fact it is my favorite ester. When I was living in "Mexico" I used it as the base for all my cycles.

 

[rrozell]

prop

you are most likley use 100 mg prop. in order to make this strength you have to use an alcohol base. there is usually very little oil added bc this will dilute the strength. when i used to make this strength from the raw powder i would over dose it (@125/ml) so i could cut it with more oil than normal and still have a strong product. this eased up some of the pain.

 

[DOGMA]

T suspension hurts me WAY more than prop.

 

[rrozell]

t susp

t susp will there is no oil in it. just water and alcohol. thats why the halflife is so short and injections are so frequent. whatout it is very easy to get an infection from that product. must must must practice steril techinques. can explain more if you want

 

[lucian]

ho bout

redness w the swelling?i dont have a fever or feel bad but its red. this has happened before but i used a 100 mg per ml in my quad. whats an infection look like? i wouldnt be able to walk right?
lucian

 

[MikeS]

The smaller esters (acetate/prop/phenyl prop) require more BA to hold the drug in the oil. So, more pain. Stuff like deca and EQ (deconate/undeconate) or long acting test (enanthate/cyp) are long acting esters and never hurt unless great concentration per ml. Sometimes (50ml QV enanthate250) stuff hurts because the manufacturer inexplicably adds too much BA even though its not required. Bottom line the short acting esters will hurt more than long acting ester with similar mg/ml.

Suspension kills me. too bad I love it. The water absorbs so quickly that the test cyrstals are left in the injections site, causing irritation. Id like to get a good 100mg/ml Test no ester (same as suspension) but in oil. The oil would 'protect' the site from irritation because its absorptions is so much slower than water.

 

[Dave_19]

depends on brand/manufacturer, QV prop used to burn a bit for me so after my 1st cc, I mixed in 1cc of USP grade oil in the qv bottle and shook, problem solved.

 

[Big_O]

Try some Vet suspension if you want to feel some pain brother...I shot my bi-cep with nutri-vet suspension my entire bicep turned purple and hurt like a mofo.....worse than QV test 400-450..some more painfull shit...

My last cycle i did test e and G-P suspension and it was absolutely painless..water based....i went thru 11 vials of it...

 

[HELLA SWOLE]

That's why I homebrew!! You can control the pain factor by manipulating the solvents on all your gear. I make 100mg prop with 2%/20% and it has never hurt me. I amd doing 1.5 cc's EOD right now with it with no problems at all......quads, glutes, pecs, delts....no pain.

 

[hughesy]

redness w the swelling?i dont have a fever or feel bad but its red. this has happened before but i used a 100 mg per ml in my quad. whats an infection look like? i wouldnt be able to walk right?
lucian

I am going through the same thing right now... Glutes hurt like a bitch for a couple of days. But quads kill me.. Swollen and red. Feels like someone hit me with a bat. If I sit for more then 10 min. it stiffens up on me.... But it goes away after 2-3 days.

 

[phreak]

it's definitely the BA. BA is a serious irritant to flesh. and i don't think it's necessarily because of the ester. yeah, prop requires more BA than enanthate, but i think that some manufacturers make up for poor sterility standards by overdoing the BA content.

i have some homebrew prop (125mg/ml) that hurts pretty bad; i can only go in the delts and glutes with it.

but what hurt me more than anything (suspension/winny included) was the QV 4T. good god that stuff hurts. i was only using 2 ml a week, split up into 2 doses, and it took my dumb ass about 6 quad shots to realize that i couldn't take it any more. i ended up going with delt shots only. shame because it was/is very strong stuff; 500mg/wk (suposedly lol) had me banging my girl twice a day and rubbing one out at least once a day as well! i liked the effects, but was glad when i took my last shot.

same with prop. love the effects, thrilled when i do the last shot.

 

[lucian]

hugesy

bro thats what im talkin bout. my left quad looks like 2" bigger. huge sweep if i could get past the pain id do it in bothe quads. lol i did 50 mg of oil base winny in the right quad but its not half as bad as the other one. so if i cut it with some xtra oil it should take care of some of the pain? i cant imagne this stuff in my biceps.
lucian