Why not use proviron for all Test Cycles?

Doberman77 · Feb 10, 2009

Im probably missing something here?

but we know proviron frees up test (more test more gains?) so why dont people use it as a staple when using test in there cycles?

OxFuckedInTheAss · Feb 10, 2009

they should...maybe money...

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machola · Feb 10, 2009

Doberman77 said:
Im probably missing something here? but we know proviron frees up test (more test more gains?) so why dont people use it as a staple when using test in there cycles?

i've never seen proof that it free test. do you have any?... i think its a myth

BEASTZ6 · Feb 10, 2009

Proviron does free up test, but it is kind of pricey.

full_belly · Feb 10, 2009

BEASTZ6 said:
Proviron does free up test, but it is kind of pricey.

and i believe the effects are short lived( ie only weeks long) before the body raises shbg again to attain homeostasis.

machola · Feb 10, 2009

full_belly said:
and i believe the effects are short lived( ie only weeks long) before the body raises shbg again to attain homeostasis.

i still haven't seen any evidence that proviron frees or increases free test, but... this is just a theory. i think any test freed from shbg by proviron would be picked up by albumin... i'm still waiting to see a study on this though. if someone has one please post it

Mr.Bungle · Feb 10, 2009

I like proviron, but I'm not sure if it really makes that much of a difference as far as free test goes. I'd run it more however if it werent so expensive. I like it more as an anti-e and for sex drive.

JohnnyPro · Feb 10, 2009

Doberman77 said:
Im probably missing something here? but we know proviron frees up test (more test more gains?) so why dont people use it as a staple when using test in there cycles?

I would if I could afford it.

vadim_b1 · Feb 10, 2009

masteron is much better for this and i get visible effects every time.
Proviron will work also but you would need higher doses than most seem to think (id say at least 100 mg/day).

brineal · Feb 10, 2009

i think people tend to avoid it because of the DHT issue and propensity for hairloss..

Big Bapper · Feb 10, 2009

vadim_b1 said:
masteron is much better for this and i get visible effects every time.
Proviron will work also but you would need higher doses than most seem to think (id say at least 100 mg/day).

Winstrol and slin are very effective also.

Big Bapper · Feb 10, 2009

machola said:
i still haven't seen any evidence that proviron frees or increases free test, but... this is just a theory. i think any test freed from shbg by proviron would be picked up by albumin... i'm still waiting to see a study on this though. if someone has one please post it

I dont have any studys to back this up but I would say Proviron lowers SHBG also drug masteron, winstrol and insulin are noted to have the same effect.

PHIL HERNON · Feb 10, 2009

SHBG

NONE OF THOSE COMPARE TO SOMETHING ELSE FOR FREEING UP TEST.......NO ITS NOT SEX.........

klowndog · Feb 10, 2009

PHIL HERNON said:
NONE OF THOSE COMPARE TO SOMETHING ELSE FOR FREEING UP TEST.......NO ITS NOT SEX.........

Well are you going to enlighten us?

machola · Feb 10, 2009

PHIL HERNON said:
NONE OF THOSE COMPARE TO SOMETHING ELSE FOR FREEING UP TEST.......NO ITS NOT SEX.........

my guess is insulin

machola · Feb 10, 2009

yes

Big Bapper said:
I dont have any studys to back this up but I would say Proviron lowers SHBG also drug masteron, winstrol and insulin are noted to have the same effect.

i dont disagree with this. i just think it would change the ratio of test bound to ablbumin/shbg(so less would be bound to shbg and more to albumin, keeping about the same level of free test). there is HUGE amount of albumin floating around in our blood for test to bind too.

just a theory though. no study=no believable information... a couple month ago a guy on this board was going to get hormone blood test then take proviron and get another test to see how it affected his free test. never materialized though