Here's a recent one:
http://www.professionalmuscle.com/forums/professional-muscle-forum/101281-cycle-questions.html
I don't have an agenda, I don't sell supplements and I don't live in the US.
I've done a few cycles with 600mg test and some deca or EQ and once I upped my test to 900mg, honestly, didn't feel much difference in gains, but certainly more sides, like apnea and bloat.
All I'm saying is that this plural grams mindset is dangerous. You just don't need this to grow.
It's an open forum and I believe I can air an opinion just as you can.[/QUOTE]
You're right, you do have an opinion and I never said differently. You however, are grately exaggerating what people are saying/doing. That is not an opinion, that is called lying. I agree that 5g cycles are not healthy, but your claim that it is the norm on this forum is just a down right lie. I am very open minded and don't bash people bc of their opinions, but that's not why I have a problem with what you're saying. I have a problem with what you're saying bc it's just complete bull shit and even though you still can't back up your statements with actual proof, you still continue to push your lie, but attempt to mask it by calling it your opinion.
Do you realize that the thread you just posted as your proof adds up to a weekly total of 3,850mg? Now I'm not arguing that nearly 4g is healthy or that it's not a lot of gear, but you're still shy 1,100mg of your accusations. There's a big difference between 4 and 5 grams so don't try and say that it's close enough.
Just bc you don't feel any different from slightly increasing your dose doesn't mean that it's the same for everyone else. You say that you don't need high doses to grow, right? So you're telling me that if I run a gram of test this cycle and gain 20lbs then I can run it again for another cycle and expect another 20lbs? No, that's what they call a tolerance. If you stop growing at one dose and your diet and training is in check then yes you have to increase your dose to keep growing. I'm not saying that you NEED 4-5G right out of the gate to grow, but pros that have been cycling for 20+ years and are 300lbs in the off season DO require big doses to keep improving and growing.
I will never run even close to 4G of gear bc I think about long term side effects. Not to mention I don't have any interest in running high doses like that, but the fact remains that some DO need that to keep improving.
If you have such a problem with guys running over a gram of AAS then you might want to go somewhere else bc incase you missed it this is professional muscle and moderate doses aren't creating mass monsters of today.
Personally I have nothing against you, but enough with the bull shit stories man.