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Why you should NOT take estrogens (exogenous E2 ≠ T's aromatic product)


Doesn’t have relevance to me, but i got to wondering…..

says the prevalence of Aromatase Deficiency is less than 1 in a million

also says fewer than 20 cases have been reported to date

published 2013
Good point bro. It's the same one that I've been trying to make with BlackBeard, but for some reason he continues to trot out irrelevant studies that bolster my view rather than support his. These three are not alike: 1. Aromatase Deficiency, 2. Mutations in CYP19A1 expression (that result in short stature and physiologic abnormalities), & 3. Bros convinced they're "low aromatizers" because their TRT dose gives them low-normal E2. The third group often complain of "achy joints," "low libido," & "low energy," and shockingly, are typically under-eating & over-training and high trait anxiety individuals.
 
Human males with aromatase mutations have decreased libido and reduced sexual behavior, despite high testosterone levels, and estrogen treatment enhances libido and sexual activity (35).



and what about this?

 
Good point bro. It's the same one that I've been trying to make with BlackBeard, but for some reason he continues to trot out irrelevant studies that bolster my view rather than support his. These three are not alike: 1. Aromatase Deficiency, 2. Mutations in CYP19A1 expression (that result in short stature and physiologic abnormalities), & 3. Bros convinced they're "low aromatizers" because their TRT dose gives them low-normal E2. The third group often complain of "achy joints," "low libido," & "low energy," and shockingly, are typically under-eating & over-training and high trait anxiety individuals.
Idk what his fixation on supplemental estrogen is , but if he feels like that’s what is working for him and that’s what he wants to do, 🤷🏻‍♂️ that‘s his choice

i just wanted to put that info out there in case anyone reading was thinking they might have aromatase deficiency, since he referred to it as “common”
 
I see the deficiency all the time in the clinical setting, it's more common than you think. Many people don't realize they have it, so it's underreported. Makes sense?


@SouthernMuscle I'm not obsessed about supplemental estrogen or use it. What the fuck are you talking about? 😂



@Type-IIx is a LARP and Dr. Jim alternate account from Meso Rx.



@gains4000 Tell that to the guys with dead dick and libido from using too much AI. You posted one study using supraphysiological doses of DHT? "C'mon Man" - Joe Biden
 
"All the classic low estrogen symptoms."

Oy vey.. For decades people have done all they can to control high estrogen, now we have a whole crop of men wanting to increase their estrogen because hey, "aromatase deficiency is a thing."
 
I see the deficiency all the time in the clinical setting, it's more common than you think. Many people don't realize they have it, so it's underreported. Makes sense?


@SouthernMuscle I'm not obsessed about supplemental estrogen or use it. What the fuck are you talking about? 😂



@Type-IIx is a LARP and Dr. Jim alternate account from Meso Rx.



@gains4000 Tell that to the guys with dead dick and libido from using too much AI. You posted one study using supraphysiological doses of DHT? "C'mon Man" - Joe Biden
never said obsessed, i said fixated. Theres a difference. This whole thread has been about you defending supplemental estrogen use in males

If you see this all the time you should really report these diagnoses so that this condition can be studied, because as of right now, it’s extremely rare according to published medical literature

theres a button on the website i linked that reads “suggest an update” where you can submit your data

 

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