Winstrol vs masteron vs

[Arko.]

Anyone know why winstrol causes pain in the joints and muscles but masteron doesn't?

 

[LK3]

totally different drugs. lol
just because they are both dht derivatives doesn't mean they are the same drug.

wini does bad things to connective tissue an collagen.

wini also feel much stronger then mast to me.

2 weeks into wini and I generally have cartoon veins. hate it on paper love it in me! lol

 

[Arko.]

I agree winstrol is stronger in certain aspects, but always been curious why for example winstrol makes my strength go thru the roof, where masteron doesn't. I've tried 200mg mast.p per day and my strength is good, but not close to what just 40-50mg / day winstrol does.

On the other hand winstrol doesn't do much to enhance sexdrive for me, where masteron does x 10.

It's just interesting how a slight change to a dht derivative and the effects change so much.

 

[LATS]

Well if you are comparing the two without a test base the reason why winni hurts the joints is because it can shut you down and does not convert to estro.. This in turn will irritate the joints.. Masterone also does not convert but is much weaker on the anabolic/ androgenic ratio scale..

 

[Itsthework]

Different animals all together from a basic point of view.

Mast, much more forgiving in my opinion.

Winny for too long or too high dose will begin to wreck your joints and connective tissue. Strange pains will just " appear "

ITW

 

[ZOFO1973]

IMO, No need for Win unless you are competing. Makes my joints feel like shit and destroys HDL.

 

[Ocean cool]

How toxic is winny taken orally?

I read allot of guys who are afraid of injection takes it orally.

I read, generally, winny is relatively safe. I.e. not that harsh.

 

[Growman]

How toxic is winny taken orally?

I read allot of guys who are afraid of injection takes it orally.

I read, generally, winny is relatively safe. I.e. not that harsh.

Winnie is toxic to the liver, and when taken orally its worse as it is a 17aa (alpha alkylated) and it needs to pass the liver twice. So the injections are better as far as the liver is concerned.

Like ZOFO just said its also harsh on HDL, so when you consider its also liver toxic that would make me consider it a harsh drug. But it all depends what you are comparing it to. Anavar is considered to be the safer oral.

 

[Nabz]

Winny is harsh on the liver whether you inject it or take a pill. Both versions are 17-aa, some will even drink the injectible winny.

 

[bca21]

Winnie is toxic to the liver, and when taken orally its worse as it is a 17aa (alpha alkylated) and it needs to pass the liver twice. So the injections are better as far as the liver is concerned.

Like ZOFO just said its also harsh on HDL, so when you consider its also liver toxic that would make me consider it a harsh drug. But it all depends what you are comparing it to. Anavar is considered to be the safer oral.

More than halo or drol? I wouldn't think so..

 

[Ocean cool]

Seems like winny is leading.

 

[ZOFO1973]

More than halo or drol? I wouldn't think so..

Id say worse for liver & HDL Halo>Winny>Drol>Var

 

[phatkid77]

Id say worse for liver & HDL Halo>Winny>Drol>Var

The perfect prep stack liver toughen upper. Lol


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[ZOFO1973]

The perfect prep stack liver toughen upper. Lol


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Cant argue with that!

 

[yomstf]

Sorry, Arko, if this is a Hijack.

Do you get an increase in strength or athletics performance (sex not included haha) with masteron?

 

[Arko.]

Sorry, Arko, if this is a Hijack.

Do you get an increase in strength or athletics performance (sex not included haha) with masteron?

Both, relexes and timing are sharp and moderate strength gains on lifts with masteron.
There's a reason why so many mma fighters have been caught using masteron aka drostanolone.