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WOW! phil heath 2nd place

LATS , whats your oppinion of Toney Freeman , I know he is alot taller than the rest of the guys and weighs close to the same meaning he doesn't have the mass that they do but in my oppinion he shape is great , nice tight waist doesn't have the big destended belly like alot of guys do. I guess I just more like that style and the BBR's of years back than the mass monsters of today
 
Yea Phil will pull it all together and be on top soon!...but from what Ive heard MOST seem to agree that Kai just out-muscled him.

Looked like a good show!

RJ
 
I think Tony Freeman is awesome. Dude is 44 and still hangin!!!

You guys gotta admit, Branch is a FReak IN EVERY sense of the word! He may not be as pretty but DAMN, I though he brought awesome conditioning and maintained it from morning show to the night!
 
Actually, Toney outweighs Kai by about 30 pounds. I can't figure out his placings either.



LATS , whats your oppinion of Toney Freeman , I know he is alot taller than the rest of the guys and weighs close to the same meaning he doesn't have the mass that they do but in my oppinion he shape is great , nice tight waist doesn't have the big destended belly like alot of guys do. I guess I just more like that style and the BBR's of years back than the mass monsters of today
 
Nice! Id hate to see the taxes hes going to have to pay on that!! It probably will be one big check. I know when my wife gets a bonus at the bank its aoubt 1/2 of the amount of the check that goes to taxes but then you get some back at the end of the year.

What is depressing to see is what the first place woman gets for bodybuidling. They take all those male hormones and sacrifice even more than a man and get paid like crap.

Tell her to change her with holdings from the bonus checks to 99 and you will get more now instead of waiting from the end of the year, because the government puts those taxes into a account to draw interest for themselfes as long as you have deductions it is better for you get it now not later and you can put the extra money into an account for you not uncle sam.
 
I must admit Phil and Kai Phil IMO Phil did have by far better conditioning than Kai but Kai still got to be where he deserved to be. :cool:
 
I must admit Phil and Kai Phil IMO Phil did have by far better conditioning than Kai but Kai still got to be where he deserved to be. :cool:

i think it just shocked everybody when phil didnt win.
i was shocked and i thought kai was gonna place 3rd
 
Branch beat Dexter for the same reason Kai beat phil. He just muscled him off the stage.

I'm with everyone on the Freeman placings, I don't understand them. He's the biggest guys up there, has INSANE legs for a guy his height, and brings peeled conditioning with the best x frame there is.
 
Branch beat Dexter for the same reason Kai beat phil. He just muscled him off the stage.

I'm with everyone on the Freeman placings, I don't understand them. He's the biggest guys up there, has INSANE legs for a guy his height, and brings peeled conditioning with the best x frame there is.

i agree with u too
i thought he was gonna place alot higher than he did
 
I am a Heath fan, but after looking at the side by side comparisons on flexonline it is a little easier to see why Kai won. Like mentioned, Phil just doesnt have the shoulder width, which is no fault of his own I just mean the whole girdle structure or whatever
 
SORRY.. but respectfully disagree.. phil loses each show when he is standing relaxed next to his opponents.. is is very narrow and not too impressive standing relaxed.. and much of the time this is how the judges see him.. when you see the differences between phil and kai relaxed it is night and day.. phil does not have the structure.. he is able to hide it somewhat when he is posing.. but relaxed his narrowness shows and his chest weakness is much more apparent.. kai showed up huge and conditioned.. and although it was close, he (kai) deserved the win..

I agree with you!! 100%
 
I think Phil should have placed first... He showed up with better conditioning and still maintained alot of size... I'm just not a Kai fan. He scares me.:(
 
i agree with you bro you have 100% right. i dont think Phil is that good either 3 to 4 years ago he lokeed like shit nothing like # 1 and 2 years training with JAY and started slin he looks full because of slin and fucking synthol. im sorry if i was harsh. as Lats said ha have no structure

You don't think Phil is that good lol. Ok. Training with Jay for 2 years? He hardly ever trains with Jay. He looks full because of his genetics. He's been round like that since he started competing. Four years ago he won the first 2 pro shows he entered, according to you, looking like "shit."
 
i agree with you bro you have 100% right. i dont think Phil is that good either 3 to 4 years ago he lokeed like shit nothing like # 1 and 2 years training with JAY and started slin he looks full because of slin and fucking synthol. im sorry if i was harsh. as Lats said ha have no structure

It's all just slin and synthol.... and training with jay during a photo shoot :rolleyes: Did you even see the photos from yesterday?

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bro he has an excellent build, insane fullness, separation, detail and insert points which is not from slin and synthol - he had that from day fucking one. His only flaw is that he is narrow... he is still number 3 (or number 2 if you have him over kai) in the world.
 
It's all just slin and synthol.... and training with jay during a photo shoot :rolleyes: Did you even see the photos from yesterday?

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bro he has an excellent build, insane fullness, separation, detail and insert points which is not from slin and synthol - he had that from day fucking one. His only flaw is that he is narrow... he is still number 3 (or number 2 if you have him over kai) in the world.

Those pics are amazing! He looked superb!
 
Those pics are amazing! He looked superb!

I agree. He has put on some size. Conditioning is excellent. I haven't seen any other pics from the event so can't comment on the line up.
 

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