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your ai dose for this cycle

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this is just a question in general - not a personal question


what would your adex dose for a cycle like this be??

750mg test e ew
600mg tren ew
600mg eq ew
40 mg dbol ed
500iu hcg ew
 

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none....

I would have it on hand though.

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If you are prone to gyno.....then nolva....

otherwise I wouldn't do anything....
 

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How about the other negative effects of high estrogen besides gyno?
that's why you have it... ON HAND....

taking something just for the sake of taking it...is dumb...

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this is true

when your on nolva does your estro ever raise too high?
most of the time.....you will never feel your estro increase
while on a heafty cycle....

only way to know is bloods....

but, sides are also I big indicator....

if I feel fine....look fine....boner works fine....sleep well....eat well
IM FUCKIN GOOD and not worrying about estro......

know what I mean.."??
 

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I think many worry about estrogen dominance ... So they are concerned about elevated estro but they neglect to take into consideration extremely elevated test levels.. We need to look more at ratio of test to estro than just elevated estro.. There are numerous side effects from anti es .. I get aweful shoulder pain and limited range of motion..
 

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YES Lats....

why cant I ever make it sound like that....:(

im not filtered.....I'm shit.
 

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YES Lats....

why cant I ever make it sound like that....:(

im not filtered.....I'm shit.
Lol... I have to add that when taking 750 to 1000 mgs ( or more) even 25 mgs of aromasin a day is not bringing you into normal estro range by any means.. Not saying not to try and bring it down etc.. That's everyones decision to make on how they feel.. Just don't think its a " cure"..
 

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most of the time.....you will never feel your estro increase

while on a heafty cycle....



only way to know is bloods....



but, sides are also I big indicator....



if I feel fine....look fine....boner works fine....sleep well....eat well

IM FUCKIN GOOD and not worrying about estro......



know what I mean.."??


Deadset m8 I did a cycle without an Ai and just 10mg nolva ED and I never had any issues , went and got bloods and estro was 4 time the limits ,, back then I went to another forum and everyone pretty much said hit the Adex hard ,, thing was I felt fine and was growing extremely well, I've had pros tell me they never used ai until pre Comp,,, it's only the forums that got me taking Adex


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AI more than anything should be part of a PCT....

rather than DURING.....unless needed...
 

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Deadset m8 I did a cycle without an Ai and just 10mg nolva ED and I never had any issues , went and got bloods and estro was 4 time the limits ,, back then I went to another forum and everyone pretty much said hit the Adex hard ,, thing was I felt fine and was growing extremely well, I've had pros tell me they never used ai until pre Comp,,, it's only the forums that got me taking Adex


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yes....I was gonna say that earlier......I only really utilize AI
during a prep....

I also feel....like LATS said....a lot of guys go over board and totally kill
estro while on cycle....then complain about sides from the cycle....

:cool:
 

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I think many worry about estrogen dominance ... So they are concerned about elevated estro but they neglect to take into consideration extremely elevated test levels.. We need to look more at ratio of test to estro than just elevated estro.. There are numerous side effects from anti es .. I get aweful shoulder pain and limited range of motion..
common sense always told me their has to be a ratio of T > E

everywhere i see it brought up though they say theres no ratio, its just keep your estro within a normal males range

i think even dave palumbo said to keep it in range on hes show; opposed to a ratio?
 

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yes....I was gonna say that earlier......I only really utilize AI
during a prep....

I also feel....like LATS said....a lot of guys go over board and totally kill
estro while on cycle....then complain about sides from the cycle....

:cool:
yeah it does make sense, also ive heard from the same people... always get your estro measured with a saliva test, not blood...... a saliva test is meant to give a more accurate reading of your aromatising rate etc.... i did find a study for woman that took saliva test e2d for a month and there total estro was alot less than bloods were saying (think a blood test is just a snapshot of your hormones at that GIVEN time,,, and we know hormones fluctuate during the day)

what do yous think on this??
 

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