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zero desire/libido..Please help :)

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Well not that there aren't enough threads on here related to this topic but i figured i'd post just to see if i can get some feedback, see if i'm missing something here.

I got my labs back last week since i've been feeling this way for well over a month or so and just new something was wrong. Literally sex is not on my mind, not even remotely and the times i've been in the situation nothing was functioning. zero desire.

I'm currently taking 300mg of test e week and test came in at 1800 and estro at 67.2. I'm assuming it must be estro that has me feeling this way, however i have been on just test e for quite some time now, i don't really dabble in other dvds other than GH on occasion and fat burners, but keep it simple with just Test. My last labs at my estro at 60 which was 6-8 months ago. Is it possible the jump from 60 to 67 makes that much of a difference?

side note which i find very strange, is even when using ED meds i get very weak result compared to what i use to get. The strange thing is i get all the sides i use to get like stuff sinus, headaches from ciali and viag, but not the effect downstairs that i'm use to.

I have MP aromasin and i was going to take 12.5mg ED and retest in 3 weeks.

I'm open to any suggestions or any other things i may need to look into...this feeling sucks...
 
Are you taking any anti aromatase inhibitors? The only time I got this way was after finishing a cycle and doing pct, and when I was taking too much Anastrozole and Nolva during the cycle, apparently you need some of that Estrogen for sex drive.
 
Are you taking any anti aromatase inhibitors? The only time I got this way was after finishing a cycle and doing pct, and when I was taking too much Anastrozole and Nolva during the cycle, apparently you need some of that Estrogen for sex drive.

I just started taking MPs Aromasin 12.5mg ED. but was on none when labs were taken. I'm thinking i should notice something within a few days/week once estro starts to lower...
 
I'm also considering adding HCG. In my 2 years on Test i haven't really ever used it consistently. I have at times run a few short blasts of it but never part of my weekly regimen.
 
Your Estro need to be between 20 and 25.
 
Test Levels

Hey Ali,

I've known many guys over the years who've experienced this.

The truth about Total or Serum Test numbers are truthfully in many ways of little value.

Your Free Test level is the key ingredient to have checked with your lab work.
For both libido and muscle growth. My Dr always has both of mine checked, every 3 months.

You may be one of the guys with a high total test but a low free test. That would be my guess.

Things like Masteron and/or Proviron at low doses would benefit, but I would suggest getting your free checked before adding anything.


-MT
 
Hey Ali,

I've known many guys over the years who've experienced this.

The truth about Total or Serum Test numbers are truthfully in many ways of little value.

Your Free Test level is the key ingredient to have checked with your lab work.
For both libido and muscle growth. My Dr always has both of mine checked, every 3 months.

You may be one of the guys with a high total test but a low free test. That would be my guess.

Things like Masteron and/or Proviron at low doses would benefit, but I would suggest getting your free checked before adding anything.


-MT

Thank you for the response. I will look intro this with my next labs. I plan on going again in 3 weeks
 
Get ure estrogen lower around 30 and u should start feeling better I always run mast on cruise to help with that 100mast 150 test Cyp never an issue
 
If your free levels come back low, and estrogen is in check like Alin said and you were still having issues,

I personally would add the following:

hcg
cialis daily (5mgs per day if available)
Proviron (daily)
Cabaser/Dostinex (E2d)

If that doesn't work there is always Deer Antler Spray :D Ok kidding with that one, but seriously a combo of the others should help
 
Hey Ali,

I've known many guys over the years who've experienced this.

The truth about Total or Serum Test numbers are truthfully in many ways of little value.

Your Free Test level is the key ingredient to have checked with your lab work.
For both libido and muscle growth. My Dr always has both of mine checked, every 3 months.

You may be one of the guys with a high total test but a low free test. That would be my guess.

Things like Masteron and/or Proviron at low doses would benefit, but I would suggest getting your free checked before adding anything.


-MT

This...I have had the same problem for a long time. All typical test have come back in range, free, e2, etc. still no help. I get the clogged sinus from Viagra, cialis sorta works, just nothing 100%.

For kicks this last cycle, I added 400mg mast e ew. That changed everything! You have to give it a little time to get In Your system but it helps. Fwiw, proviron didn't do anything for me.
 
Hey Ali,

I've known many guys over the years who've experienced this.

The truth about Total or Serum Test numbers are truthfully in many ways of little value.

Your Free Test level is the key ingredient to have checked with your lab work.
For both libido and muscle growth. My Dr always has both of mine checked, every 3 months.

You may be one of the guys with a high total test but a low free test. That would be my guess.

Things like Masteron and/or Proviron at low doses would benefit, but I would suggest getting your free checked before adding anything.


-MT

I feel like this is solid advice. Free test is more important than total test. Get your estrogen down, in the 20-30 range, but not too low. As many have pointed out, crushing E2 levels will zap the libido all by itself. Could also try some Davanil or quality nettle root extract for a few weeks to free up SHBG bound test and thus free test and also increase free DHT which is potent for sex drive (think masteron and proviron). A lot of people have success with this though. You may have high SHBG. 300mg of test should be plenty so I suspect other variables at play (low free test, SHBG, higher E2, high-normal prolactin, etc.). Staying on masteron forever isn't really a solution from a smart HRT approach but will definitely be a quick fix.

If it was me, I'd jump on a smart dosage of exemestane along with Davanil and bulk 1-carboxy (l-dopa) for about 3 weeks and see how things go. None of that can do anything but help.
 
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Does your drive remain low on TRT levels as well, 100 - 200 mg/week? Or just when you're running the higher doses?
 
Hmmmm but isn't the ratio of test to estro important ?? . which really isn't all that bad??..Yes his estro is elevated but so is his Test...i was at 2400 Test/ 85 e2 running 500mg of Cyp and felt phenomenal... how are you pinning?
 
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For me personally i find that estrogen is more of a key than testosterone. Doesn't matter if it's a gram a week or 200mg every ten days which is what my trt dose is. If estro is high, no sexy time for me:(
 
Well not that there aren't enough threads on here related to this topic but i figured i'd post just to see if i can get some feedback, see if i'm missing something here.

I got my labs back last week since i've been feeling this way for well over a month or so and just new something was wrong. Literally sex is not on my mind, not even remotely and the times i've been in the situation nothing was functioning. zero desire.

I'm currently taking 300mg of test e week and test came in at 1800 and estro at 67.2. I'm assuming it must be estro that has me feeling this way, however i have been on just test e for quite some time now, i don't really dabble in other dvds other than GH on occasion and fat burners, but keep it simple with just Test. My last labs at my estro at 60 which was 6-8 months ago. Is it possible the jump from 60 to 67 makes that much of a difference?

side note which i find very strange, is even when using ED meds i get very weak result compared to what i use to get. The strange thing is i get all the sides i use to get like stuff sinus, headaches from ciali and viag, but not the effect downstairs that i'm use to.

I have MP aromasin and i was going to take 12.5mg ED and retest in 3 weeks.

I'm open to any suggestions or any other things i may need to look into...this feeling sucks...

I was taking proviron and prami at the same time at relatively low doses and I had to stop because sex drive was ridiculously high. Those two are the best at least for me.
 

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