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Old 03-03-2018, 07:59 PM
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Npp + test log opinions

Little background . training for 8 years. Several cycles. Currently 35 on TRT.
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4iu serostim

Currently use 2mg / week Arimidex just for trt. What do you think I need to add just for the npp another 1mg weekly?

196lbs 10% bf.

Also considering igf Des on lagging body parts. Pre workout.

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Old 03-04-2018, 12:06 AM
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With NPP (19 Nor's)....Arimidex isn't going to do much to an extent .

I've seen people with low estrogen levels....but high proclactin levels which can cause gyno symptoms even though there is some correlation with estrogen elevating progesterone.

You would want something like Prami or Caber on hand for that.

But at that dose of NPP....I would think you would be fine as long as you keep your estrogen levels under control.

And I definitely wouldn't use the caber or prami unless I had bloodwork showing that it was needed.

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Old 03-04-2018, 12:34 AM
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I can use up to 300 migs of enth before I need to take an anastrazol. I can add npp to a gram and it does not increase my estro. I'll need a little ai with deca above 800 but not much and if I back off the 300te to 200 I can run about a gram of deca, no ai. I can run tren-e to 500 on 200ish teste no ai. But tren becomes overwhelming above 500 for me.
I think it's the low test but iv never needed caber, though iv kept fresh on hand.

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Old 03-05-2018, 06:25 AM
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With NPP (19 Nor's)....Arimidex isn't going to do much to an extent .

I've seen people with low estrogen levels....but high proclactin levels which can cause gyno symptoms even though there is some correlation with estrogen elevating progesterone.

You would want something like Prami or Caber on hand for that.

But at that dose of NPP....I would think you would be fine as long as you keep your estrogen levels under control.

And I definitely wouldn't use the caber or prami unless I had bloodwork showing that it was needed.

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Ran deca and tren before. Didn't have any prolactin issues. Nandrolone does aromatize... Want to stay as lean and hold as little water as possible. Going to pull bloods 10days in.

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What about the hgh 4iu 2iu split dose or all at once?

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in my experience if you control estrogenic sides you will not get any 19nor sides. but everybodys body is different. i would personally use no less than 450mg of npp also.

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What about the hgh 4iu 2iu split dose or all at once?

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u can do it all at once. i think anything over 5ius should be split. if sides are too much to handle. CTS water retention etc u can always split it to lessen the sides.


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What about the hgh 4iu 2iu split dose or all at once?

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one shot upon awakening the other late evening.

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in my experience if you control estrogenic sides you will not get any 19nor sides. but everybodys body is different. i would personally use no less than 450mg of npp also.

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Ok never ran it before. 15 days in at 60mg Ed 420/week. Had ultrasensitive estrogen pulled yesterday. Waiting for results. Just started to feel the npp.

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Thanks. What I am currently doing. Morning fasted cardio then afternoon 2iu.

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Update - 196lbs to 207 week 4. Adding in slin pre-work out with HGH
This is new to me. Would love some feedback on protocol.
3iu GH morning fasted cardio 2hrs later breakfast
Second meal - chicken breast white rice
Novolin R 30 pre-work out with GH 3iu
Intrawork out shake 60grams karbolyn 5g creatine 10g bcaa citrulline arginine
Postwork out shake 25grams karbolyn whey hydrolyzed

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Update - 196lbs to 207 week 4. Adding in slin pre-work out with HGH
This is new to me. Would love some feedback on protocol.
3iu GH morning fasted cardio 2hrs later breakfast
Second meal - chicken breast white rice
Novolin R 6units 30 minutes pre-work out with GH 3iu
Intrawork out shake 60grams karbolyn 5g creatine 10g bcaa citrulline arginine
Postwork out shake 25grams karbolyn whey hydrolyzed

Then 40mins later chicken rice.

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Never tried npp, it's good with injuries and joints?
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Never tried npp, it's good with injuries and joints?
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Been great so far.

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Update. So finishing week 7 up 213lbs from 196 starting. Just upped my npp dose to 560/week from 420. Using slin and HGH . Another 3 weeks left looking [email protected] . Still pretty lean . Overall best cycle to date. First run with npp.

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personally would at least try to match the npp dose with the same of test, unless you don't care about libido issues, or add some proviron to the mix instead of arimidex, and have caber on hand....
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