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Stop Taking All This Crap...

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This is a repost, my original post was deleted. Got that all figured out, I put some stuff into the thread that was damaging to others which caused it to be deleted. My apologies to those affected.

This year so far has been extremely physically rough on me, on 3/1/2013 I was hospitalized with extreme abdominal pain. The week leading up I was having an insane level of discomfort, the day before I actually saw a GI specialist. The problem was completely dismissed as indigestion.

I collapsed from a level of pain I had never suffered from before, and there isn't alot I have not put my body through in my short years on this planet. I was admitted with a growth coming from my liver. Went through all the bells and whistles. Initial reports were a growth coming off of my liver the size of a grapefruit. Apparently it shifted in my abdomen and was displacing all my organs.

I spend a little over a week in the hospital, the tumor went back to its original place. I got the biopsy results back. It was an adenoma with a-typical cell patterns. Adenomas are growths caused by hormones. YES STEROIDS NOT JUST GH CAUSE TUMORS. The A-typical cells are possible malignancies, malignant cancer cells.

On 3/2/13 I had my surgery. I stopped ALL anabolics and peptides when I found out, dropped down to 200mg of test. Training got kicked down to soccer mom level as did my calorie intake. The growth apparently continued to grow at an alarming speed regardless.

They removed approximately 40% of my liver as well as a tumor the size of a volleyball. The tumor nearly doubled in size.

STOP living with the illusion that this hobby is healthy or not that bad for you. I see all of these justifications "well I don't smoke or drink" or "its not as bad as rec drugs"... These compounds are terrible for you, and bottom line from nearly all of these suppliers the quality isn't there. We have ZERO idea what is in these products.

It is no difference than someone using cocaine saying "hey its not meth"...

As far as my past use which will get brought up, its everything from 200mg of test a week to 4-5 grams per week. Years ago I was heavy orals, I haven't used an oral now in nearly three years. Growth, peptides, everything.

I am young, really young... 25... These drugs can destroy your health, cost you HUNDREDS of thousands in medical debt, etc.

Just hopefully some of you actually heed my warning, and don't go on thinking injecting mystery substances can be a good idea.

My body building days are over. 200mg per week of prescribed test. Gym 4 times a week, and being healthy here on out. I went from being a ripped 240 pounds to a weak, fat, and bloated 210 in the past month... I cannot even walk upright right now from the surgery and will have a 32 inch long scar. WAKE UP people.
 

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sorry this shit happened bro damn! that really sucks




what do you mean by "mystery substances" tho?
 
Fuckkk bro. I'm super sorry to hear that man. Hopefully you can still find some enjoyment in the gym. Once you're all healed up. Wish you all the best
 
I was wondering how you were.
Thanks for re-posting and telling your story.
I hope you get well soon and make a good recovery.
Is this simm to the operation Baldnazi had?
 
sorry this shit happened bro damn! that really sucks




what do you mean by "mystery substances" tho?

Meaning you don't know what's in the UG concoctions you're injecting into your body I'm assuming.
 
Wishing you a speedy recovery
 
Meaning you don't know what's in the UG concoctions you're injecting into your body I'm assuming.



indeed, well i have an ultrasound on my liver scheduled for the end of the week


now im thinking i should have scheduled it sooner :confused:
 
PMchris, sorry to hear about this but thank you very much for sharing. My health is good thank god, but I am having the same revelation as you lately.
It's just not fucking worth it. Maybe you dodge a bullet but maybe you don't. A lot of people getting sick or dying...
And for what?

I can be a lean and still pretty big guy on just low test, as can the rest of us...
There is no money in this, and you have to give up so darn much to be successful...
 
sorry this shit happened bro damn! that really sucks




what do you mean by "mystery substances" tho?


Nothing you are injecting unless you buy it from an actual pharmacy are you certain what it is.

I appreciate it guys. I am not sure if this is the same surgery or not. Lets just say life priorities are about to change substantially.
 
Quick edit my surgery was on 3/23/13 looks like I typoed. Annoys me for some reason.
 
Chris, did you have any warning signs, before dropping to the floor in pain? Any blood work done that might have showed something was going wrong?

Everybody talks about oh my liver enzymes were just a little bit high, no big deal. The liver can take lots of abuse before failing... without warning. If you livers values are high, its really bad because that is only how much is leaking out into your blood. Get well soon and take it easy.
 
Chris, did you have any warning signs, before dropping to the floor in pain? Any blood work done that might have showed something was going wrong?

Everybody talks about oh my liver enzymes were just a little bit high, no big deal. The liver can take lots of abuse before failing... without warning. If you livers values are high, its really bad because that is only how much is leaking out into your blood. Get well soon and take it easy.



Absolutely no warning signs, liver values were NOT elevated.

Completely hit me out of the blue. I did notice slight distension and that it felt like something hard was pressing on my abdominal wall from the inside. I just attributed this to indigestion.
 
I'm sorry to hear about your health problems, that sucks, sounds like you did dodge a bullet to a large degree though. Best of luck in the future.

That being said, I'd like to comment on a few things to what you have said.

First, you question the quality of the compounds coming from UGL as if this had something to do with your health issues. The fact is, in all likelihood your issues had nothing to do with the quality of what you took, but rather the amount that you took. It doesn't matter if you took pharm grade everything, you would be in the same boat. Your condition is one of the most common for people taking AAS, and even though it might be more common with orals, it can also happen on just test.

Second, you dropped down to just 200mg test? You are still taking DOUBLE what is natural. I know HRT doctors are eager to write 200mg/week, but that doesn't make it safe or even reasonable. The fact that you feel safe taking 200mg/week indicates that you are still being reckless with you health. I'm not saying that someday you couldn't do that kind of dose, but before, during, and after surgery you are willing to push that? That is nuts. For me there is a significant difference between 100mg, 120mg, and 140mg per week on things like blood pressure and hematocrit. I know the BS about "everyone is different," but the fact is, with simple molecular biology things like sex hormones, it is very unlikely to see differences between individuals. Check out the mega studies on TRT, the deviation in total testosterone is very small at a given dose.

I say this out of concern for your health, if you want to be healthy, you need to pay more attention to details like this.
 
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Agreed with all points, just very eye opening. My level of ABUSE not use had the key role. I am completely accepting of this.

I also strongly believe other health issues I have had, not exactly this one, have been caused by people peddling products (of all types) that are not what they are supposed to be.

I was on over 2 grams at the time, I cannot just drop from that sort of dosage to 100mg... I wind up with massive blood pressure issues. My dosage in the future will most likely be at 75-100mg per week. However it is not yet time for that. Like I said I was on a pretty heavy run at the time of discovery.

I'm sorry to hear about your health problems, that sucks, sounds like you did dodge a bullet to a large degree though. Best of luck in the future.

That being said, I'd like to comment on a few things to what you have said.

First, you question the quality of the compounds coming from UGL as if this had something to do with your health issues. The fact is, in all likelihood your issues had nothing to do with the quality of what you took, but rather the amount that you took. It doesn't matter if you took pharm grade everything, you would be in the same boat. Your condition is one of the most common for people taking AAS, and even though it might be more common with orals, it can also happen on just test.

Second, you dropped down to just 200mg test? You are still taking DOUBLE what is natural. I know HRT doctors are eager to write 200mg/week, but that doesn't make it safe or even reasonable. The fact that you feel safe taking 200mg/week indicates that you are still being reckless with you health. I'm not saying that someday you couldn't do that kind of dose, but before, during, and after surgery you are willing to push that? That is nuts. For me there is a significant difference between 100mg, 120mg, and 140mg per week on things like blood pressure and hematocrit. I know the BS about "everyone is different," but the fact is, with simple molecular biology things like sex hormones, it is very unlikely to see differences between individuals. Check out the mega studies on TRT, the deviation in total testosterone is very small at a given dose.

I say this out of concern for your health, if you want to be healthy, you need to pay more attention to details like this.
 
SAME THING I WAS THINKING

I was wondering how you were.
Thanks for re-posting and telling your story.
I hope you get well soon and make a good recovery.
Is this simm to the operation Baldnazi had?

BN IS THE FIRST THAT CAME TO MIND..I DONT KNOW YOU YOUNG DUDES..... I WILL PRAY YOU RECOVER QUICKLY..
 

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